ASUS DARK HERO X570 CLUB

ASUS DARK HERO X570 and 5950X , love this combination with ASUS DOCS , can use the auto route in BIOS, for water preset , AIO with a cold room is needed, or water loop , if you use BIOS preset , PBO / DOCS / CO is preset , colder = better score , your not going to break records , for example R23 , from stock 25400 to 31400 , not bad for something set to auto , or can set your own preset - hit F5 START NEW , DO NOT MIX ! - in DOCS menu ,for my system , my 5950X is Golden , yours may not do as well ! = 1.4 v / 4750 /4700 / 75 amp / rest set to auto , also NO PBO leave on auto, set CO to -20 AC , in AMD OC menu , set to Motherboard ,after setting CO, WHEN LEAVING AMD OC MENU SET TO AUTO !! - optional if needed , CPU offset auto and spectrum disable . now test with default Ram , then move to memory OC , for example , 3800cl14 tuned ,fastest preset is what I have set , you have to find the sweet spot for your system .
If you don't have the cooling overhead, play with DOCS menu , use 1.160v -4425/4375 , single thread score will remain the same , my R23 score for example would be 29700 , but temps and watts drop like crazy .
latest BIOS 4001 beta , the best one for my system , so far .

 

For new AMD CPU .

 

Hi Hardreset! i belong also to the Dark Hero Club. I started with 5800x and Dark Hero (pre-ordered back in 2020 ) but was lucky to get mine without long waiting time. I did than an upgrade to 5900x. I believe we also use the same G Skill Ram Kit? i have 4x3800 CL14 from G Skill from one package, manual tuned in bios with 1:1 ratio / 2T / gear down enabled / power down disabled.

 

Good job on getting 3800cl14 x4 running , Dark Hero helps with that for sure , I use a fan on top of my ram , have you tried ASUS DOCS in the BIOS ?

 

I tried DOCP when i got my 5800x first with Dark Hero and tried this as well with 5900x. I never came so far to find out bymyself how to do Curve Optimizer per core since i do not want to copy paste 3rd systems settings because as we know the performance and temps, airflow, chips quality will always be different on different systems.

I would like to OC over Bios much more BUT my knowledge about Watts and Volts and all the different bios settings is way not on the level i would like to have before i start to do something there

Your bios settings look like the one from Skatter Benchers guide for 5900x OC with Dark Hero and DOCS?

 

ps: are you going to test it?

Version 4201 Beta Version
2022/04/29 20.77 MBytes
ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO BIOS 4201
"1. Update AGESA version to ComboV2PI 1207.
2. Improve system stability.


Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (C8DH.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.


Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usabilits84y of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS."

until now i have tested each possible beta version from asus web-site and had not a single issue until now. i will go and download it. Actually this time i'm pretty late but i was really busy last weekend!

 

Running fine , no issues so for .

 

Nice one! i had issue like "my cpu is not correct" or wrong cpu family for these settings. And i also had for really several times Code 25 or F9 on the Mobo and not been able to boot. After i could not find anything what could cause the issue, instead to apply all settings back at one time i started with first manual add memory oc and check if system will boot into windows after that manually voltage, manual docs, than enabled pbo then from enabled to manual with adding settings. Still not where i would like to be but with this approach this new bios seem to run really good. I see other people are also strugling but it's not dark hero related. Seem to be here and there some x570 compatibility issue or some users were running very special (or wrong) settings before the upgrade.

Did you note any system stability or performance increase comparing to 4006? Somehow i cant wait until Zen 4 comes out but at the same time if new CPUs are not compatible with this mainboard or ddr4 rams i dont think i will upgrade

ps: maybe you can try in your bios Core VID 1.300 with all core 47.25 on both ccx? i run this perfect with no issue and manual 1.4V on CPU. i will paste my txt bios settings here tomorrow... maybe if you have time, you will spot any numbers or settings there needs to be corrected

 

I am in the Windows 11 Insider builds , so some builds are better than others, will go back to the pervious one if I have issues ,so 4006 and this one are about the same for me , as for as 47.25 on both ccx ,with 1.300 , games will have issues , 4650 and 4600 at 1.35 is spot on, with -15 all cores , and 3800 cl14 tuned , not going to upgrade to AM5 ,but waiting for new GFX cards , but if a AMD 5950X3D was made , would get , look forward to seeing your BIOS settings !

 

i see. maybe that's the reason why my in-game expirience sometime feels like "hitting the limit" or i dont know...that feeling when it still runs smooth but still kind laggy or more kind even it runs smooth - i have a feeling like i would use too much power or would push the setup too hard on limit will try this as well to see how it works.
And i def learned from the benchmarks one thing: Hitting scores on benchmarks higher than 95% on some 3DMark benchmarks mostly did not shown in my case as best user expirience for daily use or other applications or real games... here are my bios settings:

[2022/05/05 20:53:05]
Ai Overclock Tuner [D.O.C.P. Standard]
D.O.C.P. [D.O.C.P DDR4-3802 14-16-16-36-1.50V]
BCLK Frequency [100.0000]
Memory Frequency [DDR4-3800MHz]
FCLK Frequency [1900MHz]
Core Performance Boost [Auto]
CPU Core Ratio [Auto]
Core VID [1.325]
CCX0 Ratio [47.00]
CCX0 Ratio [47.00]
Dynamic OC Switcher [Enabled]
Current Threshold to Switch to OC Mode [53]
Calibrated Temperature Threshold to switch back [75]
Hysteresis [2]
TPU [Keep Current Settings]
Performance Bias [None]
PBO Fmax Enhancer [Auto]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Auto]
Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar [Auto]
Curve Optimizer [Auto]
Max CPU Boost Clock Override [Auto]
Platform Thermal Throttle Limit [Auto]
DRAM CAS# Latency [14]
Trcdrd [15]
Trcdwr [15]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [15]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [30]
Trc [48]
TrrdS [4]
TrrdL [8]
Tfaw [12]
TwtrS [5]
TwtrL [14]
Twr [14]
Trcpage [Auto]
TrdrdScl [4]
TwrwrScl [4]
Trfc [304]
Trfc2 [384]
Trfc4 [Auto]
Tcwl [14]
Trtp [8]
Trdwr [8]
Twrrd [3]
TwrwrSc [1]
TwrwrSd [7]
TwrwrDd [7]
TrdrdSc [1]
TrdrdSd [5]
TrdrdDd [5]
Tcke [1]
ProcODT [53.3 ohm]
Cmd2T [2T]
Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
RttNom [Auto]
RttWr [Auto]
RttPark [Auto]
MemAddrCmdSetup [Auto]
MemCsOdtSetup [Auto]
MemCkeSetup [Auto]
MemCadBusClkDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusCsOdtDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
MemCadBusCkeDrvStren [24.0 Ohm]
Mem Over Clock Fail Count [Auto]
Voltage Monitor [Die Sense]
CPU Load-line Calibration [Auto]
CPU Current Capability [120%]
CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Manual]
Fixed CPU VRM Switching Frequency(KHz) [400]
CPU Power Duty Control [T.Probe]
CPU Power Phase Control [Standard]
CPU Power Thermal Control [120]
VDDSOC Load-line Calibration [Auto]
VDDSOC Switching Frequency [Auto]
VDDSOC Phase Control [Auto]
DRAM Current Capability [100%]
DRAM Power Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Switching Frequency [Manual]
Fixed DRAM Switching Frequency(KHz) [400]
CPU Core Current Telemetry [Auto]
CPU SOC Current Telemetry [Auto]
Force OC Mode Disable [Disabled]
SB Clock Spread Spectrum [Auto]
VTTDDR Voltage [Auto]
VPP_MEM Voltage [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
VDDP Voltage [Auto]
1.8V Standby Voltage [Auto]
CPU 3.3v AUX [Auto]
1.2V SB Voltage [Auto]
DRAM R1 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R2 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R3 Tune [Auto]
DRAM R4 Tune [Auto]
PCIE Tune R1 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R2 [Auto]
PCIE Tune R3 [Auto]
PLL Tune R1 [Auto]
PLL reference voltage [Auto]
T Offset [Auto]
Sense MI Skew [Auto]
Sense MI Offset [Auto]
Promontory presence [Auto]
Clock Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Core Voltage [Manual]
- CPU Core Voltage Override [1.40000]
CPU SOC Voltage [Auto]
DRAM Voltage [1.50000]
VDDG CCD Voltage Control [Auto]
VDDG IOD Voltage Control [Auto]
CLDO VDDP Voltage [Auto]
1.00V SB Voltage [1.06250]
1.8V PLL Voltage [2.00000]
Security Device Support [Enable]
SHA-1 PCR Bank [Disabled]
SHA256 PCR Bank [Enabled]
Pending operation [None]
Platform Hierarchy [Enabled]
Storage Hierarchy [Enabled]
Endorsement Hierarchy [Enabled]
TPM 2.0 UEFI Spec Version [TCG_2]
Physical Presence Spec Version [1.3]
Disable Block Sid [Disabled]
Selects TPM device [Enable Firmware TPM]
Erase fTPM NV for factory reset [Enabled]
PSS Support [Enabled]
PPC Adjustment [PState 0]
NX Mode [Enabled]
SVM Mode [Disabled]
SMT Mode [Auto]
Core Leveling Mode [Automatic mode]
CCD Control [Auto]
SATA Port Enable [Disabled]
NVMe RAID mode [Disabled]
HD Audio Controller [Enabled]
PCIEX16_1 Bandwidth Bifurcation configuration [Auto Mode]
PCIEX16_2 Bandwidth Bifurcation configuration [Auto Mode]
When system is in working state [All On]
Q-Code LED Function [Auto]
When system is in sleep, hibernate or soft off states [All On]
Realtek 2.5G LAN Controller [Auto]
Intel LAN Controller [Auto]
ASM1074 Controller [Enabled]
Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) Controller [Disabled]
Bluetooth Controller [Disabled]
USB power delivery in Soft Off state (S5) [Enabled]
PCIEX16_1 Mode [GEN 4]
PCIEX16_2 Mode [Auto]
PCIEX1 Mode [Auto]
PCIEX16_3 Mode [Auto]
M.2_1 Link Mode [Auto]
M.2_2 Link Mode [Auto]
SB Link Mode [Auto]
ErP Ready [Disabled]
Restore AC Power Loss [Power Off]
Power On By PCI-E [Disabled]
Power On By RTC [Disabled]
Above 4G Decoding [Enabled]
Resize BAR Support [Auto]
SR-IOV Support [Disabled]
Legacy USB Support [Enabled]
XHCI Hand-off [Enabled]
Generic Flash Disk 8.07 [Auto]
USB Device Enable [Enabled]
U32G2_2 [Enabled]
U32G2_3 [Enabled]
U32G2_4 [Enabled]
U32G1_10 [Enabled]
U32G1_11 [Enabled]
USB12 [Enabled]
USB13 [Enabled]
U32G2_7 [Enabled]
U32G2_C9 [Enabled]
Network Stack [Disabled]
Device [N/A]
CPU Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Package Temperature [Monitor]
MotherBoard Temperature [Monitor]
VRM Temperature [Monitor]
T_Sensor Temperature [Monitor]
Water In T Sensor Temperature [Monitor]
Water Out T Sensor Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Fan Speed [Monitor]
CPU Optional Fan Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 1 Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 2 Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 3 Speed [Monitor]
High Amp Fan Speed [Monitor]
W_PUMP+ Speed [Monitor]
AIO PUMP Speed [Monitor]
Flow Rate [Monitor]
CPU Core Voltage [Monitor]
3.3V Voltage [Monitor]
5V Voltage [Monitor]
12V Voltage [Monitor]
CPU Fan Q-Fan Control [Auto]
CPU Fan Step Up [0 sec]
CPU Fan Step Down [0 sec]
CPU Fan Speed Low Limit [600 RPM]
CPU Fan Profile [Turbo]
Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Control [Auto]
Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 1 Step Up [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 1 Step Down [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 1 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 1 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Control [Auto]
Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 2 Step Up [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 2 Step Down [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 2 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 2 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 3 Q-Fan Control [Auto]
Chassis Fan 3 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 3 Step Up [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 3 Step Down [0 sec]
Chassis Fan 3 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 3 Profile [Standard]
High Amp Fan Q-Fan Control [Auto]
High Amp Fan Q-Fan Source [CPU]
High Amp Fan Step Up [0 sec]
High Amp Fan Step Down [0 sec]
High Amp Fan Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
High Amp Fan Profile [Standard]
Water Pump+ Q-Fan Control [Disabled]
AIO Pump Q-Fan Control [Auto]
AIO Pump Q-Fan Source [CPU]
AIO Pump Upper Temperature [80]
AIO Pump Max. Duty Cycle (%) [100]
AIO Pump Middle Temperature [35]
AIO Pump Middle Duty Cycle (%) [100]
AIO Pump Lower Temperature [20]
AIO Pump Min Duty Cycle (%) [100]
Above 4GB MMIO Limit [39bit (512GB)]
Fast Boot [Enabled]
Next Boot after AC Power Loss [Fast Boot]
Boot Logo Display [Auto]
Bootup NumLock State [On]
POST Delay Time [1 sec]
Wait For 'F1' If Error [Enabled]
Option ROM Messages [Force BIOS]
Interrupt 19 Capture [Disabled]
Setup Mode [Advanced Mode]
Launch CSM [Disabled]
OS Type [Other OS]
AMI Native NVMe Driver Support [Enabled]
Flexkey [Reset]
Setup Animator [Disabled]
Load from Profile [1]
Profile Name [new4201memoc]
Save to Profile [8]
DIMM Slot Number [DIMM_A1]
Bus Interface [PCIEX16_1]
Download & Install ARMOURY CRATE app [Enabled]
CPU Frequency [0]
CPU Voltage [0]
CCD Control [Auto]
Core control [Auto]
SMT Control [Auto]
Overclock [Auto]
Power Down Enable [Auto]
Cmd2T [Auto]
Gear Down Mode [Auto]
CAD Bus Timing User Controls [Auto]
CAD Bus Drive Strength User Controls [Auto]
Data Bus Configuration User Controls [Auto]
Infinity Fabric Frequency and Dividers [Auto]
ECO Mode [Disable]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Advanced]
PBO Limits [Manual]
PPT Limit [W] [195]
TDC Limit [A] [125]
EDC Limit [A] [95]
Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar [Manual]
Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar [3X]
Curve Optimizer [Per Core]
Core 0 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 0 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [14]
Core 1 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 1 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [13]
Core 2 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 2 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [13]
Core 3 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 3 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [16]
Core 4 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 4 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [16]
Core 5 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 5 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [17]
Core 6 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 6 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [30]
Core 7 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 7 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [30]
Core 8 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 8 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [17]
Core 9 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 9 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [23]
Core 10 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 10 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [15]
Core 11 Curve Optimizer Sign [Negative]
Core 11 Curve Optimizer Magnitude [13]
CPU Boost Clock Override [Disabled]
Platform Thermal Throttle Limit [Auto]
LN2 Mode [Auto]
SoC/Uncore OC Mode [Disabled]
VDDP Voltage Control [Auto]
VDDG Voltage Control [Auto]
NUMA nodes per socket [Auto]
LCLK Frequency Control [Auto]
LCLK DPM [Auto]
LCLK DPM Enhanced PCIe Detection [Auto]
Custom Pstate0 [Auto]
L1 Stream HW Prefetcher [Enable]
L2 Stream HW Prefetcher [Enable]
Core Watchdog Timer Enable [Auto]
Core Performance Boost [Auto]
Global C-state Control [Auto]
Power Supply Idle Control [Auto]
SEV ASID Count [Auto]
SEV-ES ASID Space Limit Control [Auto]
Streaming Stores Control [Auto]
Local APIC Mode [Auto]
ACPI _CST C1 Declaration [Auto]
MCA error thresh enable [Auto]
PPIN Opt-in [Auto]
Fast Short REP MOVSB [Enabled]
Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB [Enabled]
IBS hardware workaround [Auto]
DRAM scrub time [Auto]
Poison scrubber control [Auto]
Redirect scrubber control [Auto]
Redirect scrubber limit [Auto]
NUMA nodes per socket [Auto]
Memory interleaving [Auto]
Memory interleaving size [Auto]
1TB remap [Auto]
DRAM map inversion [Auto]
ACPI SRAT L3 Cache As NUMA Domain [Auto]
ACPI SLIT Distance Control [Auto]
ACPI SLIT remote relative distance [Auto]
GMI encryption control [Auto]
xGMI encryption control [Auto]
CAKE CRC perf bounds Control [Auto]
4-link xGMI max speed [Auto]
3-link xGMI max speed [Auto]
xGMI TXEQ Mode [Auto]
PcsCG control [Auto]
Disable DF to external downstream IP SyncFloodPropagation [Auto]
Disable DF sync flood propagation [Auto]
CC6 memory region encryption [Auto]
Memory Clear [Auto]
Overclock [Auto]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
Disable Burst/Postponed Refresh [Auto]
DRAM Maximum Activate Count [Auto]
Cmd2T [2T]
Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
CAD Bus Timing User Controls [Auto]
CAD Bus Drive Strength User Controls [Auto]
Data Bus Configuration User Controls [Auto]
Data Poisoning [Auto]
DRAM Post Package Repair [Default]
RCD Parity [Auto]
DRAM Address Command Parity Retry [Auto]
Write CRC Enable [Auto]
DRAM Write CRC Enable and Retry Limit [Auto]
Disable Memory Error Injection [True]
DRAM ECC Symbol Size [Auto]
DRAM ECC Enable [Auto]
DRAM UECC Retry [Auto]
TSME [Auto]
Data Scramble [Auto]
DFE Read Training [Enable]
FFE Write Training [Enable]
PMU Pattern Bits Control [Auto]
MR6VrefDQ Control [Auto]
CPU Vref Training Seed Control [Auto]
Chipselect Interleaving [Auto]
BankGroupSwap [Auto]
BankGroupSwapAlt [Auto]
Address Hash Bank [Auto]
Address Hash CS [Auto]
Address Hash Rm [Auto]
SPD Read Optimization [Enabled]
MBIST Enable [Disabled]
Pattern Select [PRBS]
Pattern Length(VMR) [6]
Aggressor Channel [1 Aggressor Channel]
Aggressor Static Lane Control [Disabled]
Target Static Lane Control [Disabled]
Worst Case Margin Granularity [Per Chip Select]
Read Voltage Sweep Step Size [1]
Read Timing Sweep Step Size [1]
Write Voltage Sweep Step Size [1]
Write Timing Sweep Step Size [1]
IOMMU [Auto]
RTM Margining Support [Auto]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Auto]
Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar [Auto]
FCLK Frequency [1900MHz]
SOC OVERCLOCK VID [0]
UCLK DIV1 MODE [UCLK==MEMCLK]
VDDP Voltage Control [Auto]
VDDG Voltage Control [Auto]
SoC/Uncore OC Mode [Auto]
LN2 Mode [Auto]
ACS Enable [Auto]
PCIe ARI Support [Auto]
PCIe ARI Enumeration [Auto]
PCIe Ten Bit Tag Support [Auto]
cTDP Control [Auto]
EfficiencyModeEn [Auto]
Package Power Limit Control [Auto]
APBDIS [Auto]
DF Cstates [Auto]
CPPC [Enabled]
CPPC Preferred Cores [Enabled]
NBIO DPM Control [Auto]
Early Link Speed [Auto]
Presence Detect Select mode [Auto]
Preferred IO [Auto]
CV test [Auto]
Loopback Mode [Auto]
SRIS [Auto]
Data Link Feature Exchange [Disabled]

 

Hell of a deal !

 

X2 / Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 4000MHz CL 16-16-16-36 UDIMM Low-Latency Gaming Memory Kits - PVS416G400C6K
Can't wait for
Thursdays to try the first set of two coming !

 

Updated , both sets June 1 .

 

But you were already running at 3800Mhz if i'm not wrong? But i'm looking forward to see what this kit can do or the performance difference current vs new Ram Kit!

 

The price was hard to pass up , plus the 3800cl14 will go in my ASUS PRO X470 , it will be fun to play with for sure !

 

have you got it already? what is the difference? cons / pros compared to the "perfect spot" 3800 G Skill Kit ?

 

Huh wow i was not expecting to see something like that now i'm even more confused about the correct RAM modules and how to decide what RAM to choose for your system. Can it be that GSKILL native 3800mhz sticks are not the best and would be better to take sticks like 4000 and above and than push them back to 3800 / 1900 to run as 1:1? i never had other modules than these... oh wait i had another gskill Z also 4x8GB B-DIE but 3200 native with CL14. Both of them (4x8GB 3200 CL14 and the new 4x8GB 3800 were 4 Sticks from only 1 package which are also supported and guaranteed to work from the vendor).... dunno... but it's hard since these type of hardware is not something you can like take 10 of them and just try and bring them back at least not in switzerland since here as soon you open a package you lose 10% when you give it back!

 

4x8 is hard to tune , 3800cl 14 x 4 takes too much V and temps for my taste , 3600 cl14 x4 does as well as 3800cl14 x2 , for now sticking with XMP 3600CL14 -X4.

 

well the G Skill 3800Mhz Kit is for each kit default 1.5V i believe? What is your expirience about that kit and voltage? (Ludacris: how low can you go )