NVIDIA Explains Why Their Drivers are so good, and takes stab at AMD

most of these wound up being a flaw n the Vista compositors vsync engine, have 2 screens with different refresh rate, you were ******.

Performance with the GP104 is the same now as it was in 2016.

 

I didn't have 2 screens, just one 1024x768 lcd connected via VGA~! haha..

 

Hilarious. Just when I thought I heard it all comes the conspiracy that Nvidia was gimping their brand new 1080 some 5 months after its release.

 

I as am sure that both companies have had their driver issues, although I have had better luck with AMD, when it comes to the Linux desktop. However, I personally could not care less, I have a 6800XT that will last me for the next 5 years and I am all set.

 

I had problem with RTX 2070 when in game sharpening was crossing on to the desktop from the first day it was implemented to the last day I had that card...

 

its not working correctly u need geforce experience on top of the driver and then u need overclocking software on top of that

 

"AMD releases WHQL drivers in stages. AMD's driver, which has to be mentioned is a bit more complex as they cover desktop, mobile, and integrated GPUs."

Bloatware, in other words. They should have these separated among teams and release them separately. Including CPU overclocking in display driver, and/or vice-verse. Less is sometimes more.

 

Yeah, I remember it well as the desktop was so unstable. I once remember a monster thread of it on Driverheaven or Hardwareheaven back in 2007. Think it was over 1000 pages of all the reports.

It was a very annoying issue.

 

It just works and its more convenient. You have cpu/gpu oc tools build in the driver and you dont dont have to use afterburner or use an imail for more features.

 

amd drivers are prettier.end of debate.

 

ah yeah. i was having two separate issues @ same time.
the Nvidia issue was not recognizing g-sync module and capping frame rate @ 60Hz on a 144Hz monitor.

 

Its easier to write drivers when you dont have to worry about as much hardware.

 

Nvidia currently has support for more hardware.

 

Are you counting AMD's APUs?

 

I had problems with both amd and GeForce drivers in the past . Soooo I can not really comment what worked better for me ...to me it felt similar , on the other hand my GPU market sample lacks .... dunno 1000 cards and PC configurations to even remotely have some value

 

AMD has been getting better with their drivers for the last 3-4yrs. Recently seem to be getting faster with their releases as well.

However, it's 2022 and if a friend or family member asks me about recommending a gpu, and I know I've got to be tech support, then, it's Nvidia all the way. AMD isn't even mentioned unless it's for the cpu. So no change in my mindset there.

Interestingly, the first AMD gpu (igpu) for me since Rage days will be with the Steam Deck and I'm looking forward to it. However, again, I will not recommend the SD to any family and friends if I'm tech support. It's Intel or AMD cpu + Nvidia gpu or I'm out. I refuse to have to deal with AMD gpu issues and problems, sorry guys. I just feel like I'll get less grey hair that way.

On the otherhand, I wish Valve could've gone with Nvidia for the SD as I'm sure we wouldn't be waiting months just for an audio driver.

 

Changing voltage in Wattman doesn't just work for RDNA2 GPUs. Depending on the card, it seems to be pure chance which voltage it actually uses after changing it in the WM UI. This is why there are reports that some users get instant crashes with even just -5mV in Wattman, but can do -100mV via MPT without issues.
Another area where the AMD Linux driver works much better. There you have a voltage offset value with RDNA2 GPUs, and it once again just does what you set up, and not some nonsensical mumbo jumbo. Or you can also simply force the GPU into high clock states on Linux to check whether downclocking causes issues.
Classic AMD Windows driver. UV worked fine with RDNA1 and they once again blew it with 2. I can't stand this incompetence no more, there are myriads of examples like this.

But yes, it sucks that Nvidia doesn't offer undervolting via a non 3rd party UI.

 

Keep in mind AMD dropped support for many of their APU's in 2021 along with Pre-Polaris Rx300, Rx400 and Rx500 and 600 series parts ( 610, 520, 530, 430, 435, 450, 455)

Nvidia has 43 "supported" desktop Geforce and Titan products listed for the geforce desktop package, and 48 Notebook GPU's listed for the Notebook packages (they are the the exact binary same driver download though)

AMD on the other hand has 30 Desktop GPU's, 13 Mobility GPU's, and 8 Processors with Ryzen Graphics

That's 91 vs 51, and not even counting the fact substrings apply various fixes and workarounds - especially for Notebook parts.

 

About everything in general really.

I was referring to a single piece of hardware being more complex, thus requiring more specialized driver development with this statement however, not how broad any company's catalog might be.

 

Actually truth be told between the 6900 and the 3090 setups I had far more issues with the Nvidia often it will boot but the monitor would not respond, cable etc was fine and were changed but only on DP, HDMI was fine the 6900 booted every time perfectly swapped monitors round etc no change acted the same, since swapping the monitors from HP 27 inch to Mi ultrawides then all has been good.