Hi all, I have a new Spatium m470 1tb that isn't getting the advertised speed (only getting around 3500 MB/s of what reviews say should hit 5000). Reviewers show it actually exceeding the rated speed. I'm on an Asus Tuf X570 Wifi and using a 5700g, so it should all be supported. Up to date with the bios. Digging in, I have three drives (one SATA boot, two NVME for my games). One NVME slots supports 3.0, one supports 4.0. m.2_2 is the 4.0 capable one. I realized one Slot was 3.0 and one was 4.0, switch the Spatium to the 4.0 and it actually slowed down...to 3250 MB/s. I'm really confused here. Any thoughts? Could the SATA drive be affecting anything here?
Just an update, put it in my PS5 and it shows about 3800MB/s. I'm guessing the drive is either defective or falsely advertised?
I would exchange it. A bad slot on the motherboard could cause issues, but it's also slow on your PS5. My SSD never quite hit it's advertised speeds until I got a new motherboard.
No, new everything (New motherboard and CPU). The old one was an X470 Asus Prime Pro with a 2700X. The M.2 SSD just never got to 3.5 GB/s and was inconsistently bounding around 3 to 3.2 GB/s. Sometimes it went to half speed during speed tests. Just very erratic speeds and never getting to 3.5 GB/s. I got a new Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro V2 with a 5800X and the same drives hit 3.5 GB/s all the time, every time. I had a 512 GB and 1 TB model of the same SSD and they both behaved the same way on the older X470 board, as I mentioned above. When I put them in the new B550 board, they both hit their rated max speeds easily.
Ryzen 5700G CPU (so as other G marked CPUs ftom 5000/4000/3000/2000 series) is limited to PCIEx 3.0 max, so doesnt matter what M.2 slot on motherboard you are using that CPU will run ANY M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD @ PCIEx 3.0, but not just PCIEx 4.0 NVMe SSDs but also PCIEx 4.0 graphic cards, it's a well known fact. Scroll down these pages about that CPU and mobo and you'll fine everything you need to know: https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 7 5700G.html https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-C...F-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/techspec/
Based on your own source, what you stated isn't true. If this is widely known "knowledge" it is misinformation. I'll post an excerpt below. Should be able to get 16GT/s on at least one slot and and 4000 MB/s on the other even at half the lanes. I'm getting neither in neither. This also doesn't explain why the drive is the exact same speed on a PS5 which is theoretically capable of what, 16 GT/s or more? My current conclusion is they have swapped the NAND on the chips without notice. Trying to get someone in the media to care but alas, they don't. All the recent customer reviews are mentioning they're gimped in speed. AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series/ 3000 Series Desktop Processors : 1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, Type 2242/2260/2280/22110(PCIE 4.0 x4 and SATA modes) storage devices support AMD Ryzen™ 5000 G-Series/ 4000 G-Series/ 3000 G-Series/ 2000 Series/ 2000 G-Series Desktop Processors : 1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, Type 2242/2260/2280/22110(PCIE 3.0 x4 and SATA modes) storage devices support AMD X570 chipset : 1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, Type 2242/2260/2280/22110(PCIE 4.0 x4 and SATA modes) storage devices support 8 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s) Support Raid 0, 1, 10
5700g is pcie 3.0 dude,read the specs before you buy https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-5700g my conclusion is that you don't read the specs for things you're buying then write conspiracy theories instead of checking them. to sum up,you're insane.
You even quoted it... AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series/ 3000 Series Desktop Processors : 1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, Type 2242/2260/2280/22110(PCIE 4.0 x4 and SATA modes) storage devices support AMD Ryzen™ 5000 G-Series/ 4000 G-Series/ 3000 G-Series/ 2000 Series/ 2000 G-Series Desktop Processors : 1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, Type 2242/2260/2280/22110(PCIE 3.0 x4 and SATA modes) storage devices support AMD X570 chipset : 1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, Type 2242/2260/2280/22110(PCIE 4.0 x4 and SATA modes) storage devices support 8 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s). Furthermore, the chipset will fall back to pcie 3.0 mode if the CPU can only support pcie3.0 (as the link between the cpu and chipset is an x4 pcie link). So, if you had a 5800X, you would have pcie4.0 on both cpu lanes and chipset lanes With a 5700G, you get pcie 3.0 on cpu lanes and chipset lanes. Please endeavour to read more carefully in the future. @cucaulay malkin You don't need to call people such things, leave those kinds of things unsaid, be helpful, not offensive (even if it's true if someone is... you know... best left to yourself).
Again, this changes nothing. The speed is IDENTICAL on the PS5, and other users are reporting the same thing. How do you explain that??? Just retested with my 5600x, and NO change. Also, as I mentioned in the above comment, 3.0 x 4 is still capable of 3940MB/s. It's irrelevant considering the speeds are still WELL below that and even further below what is advertised.
Just Spoke with ASUS directly, you were wrong. "Confused about these specs. Does this mean the chipset m.2 will run at 4.0 x 4 speeds with a 5700g installed, or 3.0 x 4? AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series/ 3000 Series Desktop Processors 1 x PCIe 4.0 x16 (x16 mode) AMD Ryzen™ 5000 G-Series/ 4000 G-Series/ 2000 Series Desktop Processors 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode) AMD RyzenTM 3000 G-Series / 2000 G-Series Processors 1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x8 mode) AMD X570 chipset 1 x PCIe 4.0 x16 (max at x4 mode) 2 x PCIe 4.0 x1 Asus Tuf X570 w/wifi. Not using integrated graphics if that affects anything. Does disabling them clear up PCI lanes? Let me double check on this. Thanks. Upon checking it will still run at 4.0 x4 Both slots or just one? Just one Do we know which one? The very first one next to the CPU" So yea, 4.0 speeds are expected. Thanks for looking like fools.
If you've put a 5600X in your system, make sure you've checked your bios that you're running at pcie4, it's possible it has remained set to pcie3 from using the 5700g, next, run crystaldisk benchmark and show some screenshots of the benchmarks. The PS5 sadly isn't reliable for confirming SSD speeds, it has its own metric which isn't comparable to most other test suites used on PC. That rep is talking BS, it says on AMDs own website that the 5700G can only run at pcie 3.0, it physically cannot run at pcie 4. It's not the first time support reps get things wrong. I'd like to add, it's not good to antagonise people that are genuinely trying to help you, doing so will just mean you're disliked and will be ignored.
I did check to ensure it was set to 4.0, verified in HW monitor as mentioned previously that it is running at this speed. I have other, cheaper drives, that are kicking this things butts in 3.0 mode in my machine, so it's not the system. I've tried it in 3.0, 4.0 and auto mode with no changes in speeds. Although it does perform slightly worse on 3.0 mode on the bottom slot. The PS5 is a fine comparison. I have a friend with the "same" drive, and it reads over 5000 MB/s. His is an earlier drive, both of mine are later drives. Noting that there is no configurations to be made on a PS5 as far as the drive goes, this is the best case scenario for apples to apples comparisons. There is no reason both of my drives should be performing at 60% of the speed of his in the same console if they've not changed anything. And no, the rep isn't talking BS. It's right in the BIOs as an option and it is in the specs. You're just not reading them right. With the 5700g there is one 3.0 and one 4.0. 5600x I get two 4.0 slots. This is all confirmed in the bios and in HW monitor. Despite your assumptions, I do in fact know what I'm doing.
Right well if you've made a direct comparison with an identical drive, you've done all the leg work already, go get the drive RMA'd The rep did speak BS because he referred to the top nvme slot which is the CPU slot, this is set directly by the CPU, not the chipset
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-x570-chipset-blockdiagram-surfaces-shows-specs.html 24 lanes,16+4+4 all yours are 3.0
Either way, I've tried them both. The bios isn't lying about it, of this I'm sure. Did request an RMA twice, per MSI's own suggestion weeks ago, but they do not actually reply to the request. Seems to vanish into thin air. Contacted the sales team again today and they can't tell me anything helpful. Looking at the last two Newegg reviews, they're posting the same speeds (despite being a 5 star review). Even posted the screenshots. Amazon reviews are showing it too now in recent reviews. This is not just me. I am not making this up.
You realize this shows all 4.0 lanes, right?? The title even says "4.0 all the way". Anyway, Asus and the bios confirmed this. Give it up.
