LG 27EP950 with a Ultra HD OLED panel running at 60Hz

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  1. theoneofgod

    theoneofgod Ancient Guru

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    Plenty want them.
     
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    Amazing how these companies continue to make things nobody wants. :rolleyes:

    How is the world do they stay in business??
     
  3. tunejunky

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    these are the product types that pay for cheaper consumer goods.

    this is an entirely different manufacturing process with high pixel density at a smaller pitch, and these are "binned" these are scaled up, not cut down from tablet/phone displays.
    these monitors are the 'roided-out children of the Retina Display LG makes for Apple.
     
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    3000$ isn't bad considering a comparable professional 4k OLED will cost you several times that much. LG's TVs are manufactured on a much bigger scale (Also sold to other commercial customers for use in their own TVs),use their WRGB sub pixel structure and the problems that come from that. Aggressive ABL when targeting higher brightness values (The *Minimum brightness level here is 250 nits), banding problems in SDR(Even in HDR to a lesser degree), uniformity issues in low to mid grey value content,very wide manufacturing tolerances,etc Economies of scale help with retail cost a lot. OLED monitors for PCs will sell a fraction of the TV market. These are not mass market products.

    Just for reference (No pun intended) as an example https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1580840-REG/smallhd_mon_oled_22_oled_22_4k_reference.html
    22 inches, 12,000$ USD.
    An Oled at a similar scale to consumer TVs?
    Sony manufactures their own RGB subpixel OLED panels for some (Though may be gearing down as all of their 4k OLEDs have now been discontinued)
    https://www.connection.com/product/sony-30-bvm-x300-4k-oled-master-monitor-black/bvmx300-2/34678119 (And this is an AMOLED)
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1652499-REG/lg_65ep5g_b_ep5g_b_series_65_class.html (Still using an WRGB subpixel apparently, factory calibrated though and enough circuitry to hit closer to 1000 nits )

    Here's a used one
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802037636-USE/sony_pvm_x550_55_4k_trimaster.html


    The best priced one is Panasonic's
    https://www.filmtools.com/panasonic-65-4k-oled-uhd-monitor-tc-65fz1000u.html
    These are specifically binned and tuned LG panels with better processing (The same as used in consumer sets) https://www.avsforum.com/threads/pa...ilable-in-the-us.3175865/page-4#post-60361326 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=334996

    For professionals and prosumers, 3000$ is an incredible value (asking someone to have enough desk space for 48-65" monitors is not always practical) for what you get considering the lack of true display innovation actually trickling down to consumer devices besides higher refresh rates and variable refresh.

    Now just give me this same platform shrunk down to 25" at 1080p please for a similar price.
    LG's 55 inch commercial 1080p OLED retails for 5-6000$
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1381795-REG/lg_55ej5d_b_55_fhd_oled_1.html
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1648773-REG/lg_55ej5g_b_ej5g_b_series_55_class.html

    I have a Sony PVM-2551MD which had 7000 hours on it when I bought it used, retailed north of 7000$+ for all the little data I can find. (Possibly more) Great monitor, near full Rec 2020 coverage according to my colorimeter measurements, selectable color spaces/gamma curve, a low persistence screen mode that doesn't lose *any* brightness at all, true RGB OLED sub pixels (No 4th white sub pixel), near non existent ABL that can sustain near 250 nits no problem,decent input latency <20ms, 60hz (Not an issue for me).
    It's got some quirks(requires an EDID override to properly display 1080p native and 4:4:4 only works with a change I have to make in the service menu every time I turn it on that wont' save) but I would really like to have another for backup and usage elsewhere. But finding another 1080p OLED is extremely expensive in good condition.
     
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    great response Mr. Bonk

    Sony is re-introducing OLED 55" + this year in their BraviaXR consumer line.
    not a professional display, but rather as a LG (C series) panel with a Sony tweak -
    Sony custom silicon processors and a very robust power supply for around a $300-500 premium depending on size and region.

    the current LG C series has Free-Sync premium and so does the Sony the biggest issue for most users (here) is they're big and you'd need to be 2+ meters away.
     
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    If my current monitor gives the ghost, the only brand i will trust is EIZO due to being japanese made.

    Currently still have a EIZO CX240 from 2013, great IPS display with no IPS Glow.

    Replacement would be the EIZO CS2740.
     
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    "IPS Glow" is a function of crap backlighting with too few leds and/or bad placement.
     
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    What gives you the impression that it's dying? If anything, there seem to be more of them popping up all the time.

    I just bought my 4th 21:9 ultrawide monitor; everyone in my house loves them. If I had a better GPU and more space, I'd consider going 32:9. I no longer have any interest in buying 16:9 monitors. I also no longer buy flat screens, I prefer curved monitors. The vignette affect on a flat monitor is really noticeable to me now that I'm used to curved monitors.

    They may not be for everyone, but I don't think that ultra-wides are going away. They're great to get more productivity space for work and a nice replacement for multi-monitor setups in gaming.
     
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