It's not a literal paper launch, but if it is hard to find in-stock at MSRP on release day then yes, it effectively is a paper launch (specifically for gamers). Remember what we're talking about here: a mainstream 1080p GPU with mediocre DXR performance. Even at MSRP, it isn't worth buying for the average gamer (neither is the 3060 at MSRP, but at least that has better DXR performance). It doesn't make sense to spend extra on something that was already overpriced to begin with, especially when it's not hard to get a system capable of 1080p gaming, as that has been the norm for about a decade now. The only real benefit to this GPU is its very good efficiency. Until the price drops to at most $300, gamers aren't going to buy this. So as far as gamers are concerned, does this product really exist? AMD isn't stupid. They've always been really competitive with their prices, because they had to in order to stay afloat. They can't do anything about the S&D issue, but since demand is higher, they can charge a higher price, and they'll still make sales, just not with gamers.
Would you like to know what AMD fans are thinking? Cross RDNA2 off and write RDNA3 now because we're still waiting...
I know manufacturing costs are going up but surely they could afford to use a 16x pci link on what in reality is a $500 card. Many prospective buyers must have pcie3, is this not going to put them off?
I've been waiting on RDNA3 before RDNA2 was released. I have a good feeling about both AMD and Nvidia using the multi-chip design.
Everyone wants to see the return of that sweet sub-$250 graphics card that will be the 2021 manifestation of something like the RX 580. So do I. The question is, what sort of GPU could either Nvidia or AMD produce that would retail for $130 USD less than the 6600 XT, and would you really want to buy it? Using the MSRP as a reference, the 6600 XT is about 65% more costly than the RX580 was at launch, in 2017. (About $230 USD.) Without question, the various cards from AMD's AIB partners will be well above the 6600 XT's MSRP. But, then again, I recall some of the RX 580 cards listing for over $300 USD, too. AMD is marketing this card as a 1080p product. So, at 1080p, looking at the aggregate percent improvement over the RX 580 results in the nine games tested, I'm seeing about +103%. (Check my math... I'm just getting in from a double shift at the lab.) I can well imagine that if you ran the numbers of the RTX 3060 against another mid-range classic, the 6Gb GTX 1060, you would see a similar situation. But, going back to this comparison, inflation aside, for another $150 you gain a +100% improvement in overall gaming performance vs. the RX 580. Is it worth it? Well, look long and hard at where the RX 580 lands on these benchmarks, and ask yourself if you're OK with that. (I've no horse in this particular race, as I only own one of the games tested, and have little-to-no interest in all of the others. Plus, I'm satisfied with the various graphic cards I have.) To put this another way, just how crippled would a Navi 2 or Ampere chip need to be to slide into that sub-$250 price-point? What would be it's particulars? Half the resources of the GA 106 or Navi 23? Two-thirds? Where would it fall on Hilbert's benchmarks? And again, would you really want to buy it? I'm not tossing gauntlets. I feel these are honest questions.
¨ Exactly, but many people dont seem to understand that, reagarding the price. RT is a joke yeah, but again it is on most cards anyway.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they are trash. The rasterization performance of the 6800/6900 series is very good. And offers a decent performance/cost ratio. They are lacking a bit in RT performance and FSR is inferior to DLSS. But on the other hand, they have a better scheduler, that takes a lot of work out of the CPU. For people without the most recent and best CPUs, and playing at 1080p or 1440p, these cards perform very well. The 6700XT had a bad performance/cost ratio. And now the 6600XT is even worse.
With the actual prices, the only thought that crosses my mind right now is: stay strong 1080Ti, i need you for another 2 or 3 years!
Didnt really mean it. Kapu comment got the worst in me. Looking at the prices the 6700xt actually is the one to get for around 700euros while 6800 goes for 1,000$. I think it offers some advantages over 3070 thats priced higher.
The retail prices will probably be absurdly higher due to miners and scalpers Isn't the 6600XT meant to have 64 ROPS? https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt
(2198) RX 6600 XT Mining ETH Hashrate With Overclocking - MSI Radeon RX 6600 XT GAMING X 8G - YouTube Good mining card so higher price. I'm only the messenger here don't shoot. Just under 1660 super at mining and around 15 - 20% less efficient. Decent 1660 super can be had for £350
Pretty sure price will fall significantly lower once AMD realizes its bad PR to sell a new card 5700xt equivalent at same price.