Review: F1 2021: PC graphics benchmarks and performance analysis

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  1. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    all Raytracing is performed after Raster in the Shader stage, RDNA2 is just capable of doing it at any shader stage in-line in hardware (Tier 1.1)

    Ampere can do exactly the same with ultimate capable drivers (not sure about Turing),

    RDNA2 is ahead because of developer fine tuning the engine on that hardware, nothing more nothing less.
     
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    RX6000 always take higher performance hit with RT, there is no way around it, because RX6000 has higher rasterization performance in this game, the final hybrid Raster/RT performance is comparable between RX6000 and RTX3000.
    Developers can minimize the RT latency cost by cutting Rays counts, AMD sponsored games always do this, RE Village only does 1/4 resolution RT Reflections meanwhile CP2077 will punish RX6000 with full res RT Reflections.

    Note: I had to change the RX6800XT chart a little because it top out at 300FPS, meanwhile 3080 tops out at 250FPS.
     
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    That is because of licensing. Typical terms of official games like this is no deviation. Adding custom tracks strays from the official tracks and therefore away from the official Formula1 calendar.
    I agree with you though, it would be nice to add custom tracks, And better liveries or rather full livery customisation like you see in the Need for Speed/Forza titles.

    I'd love to see classics or maybe create some of our own test tracks for tuning and car setups.
     
  4. Loobyluggs

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    Hmm, I'm not convinced that would be the case - but I have no references or citations for that opinion.

    IF the track/course designer/editor did not have the ability to alter/change existing courses/tracks, I'm not sure why allowing players to create original tracks (especially a custom test track) would impact a license (partially) based on the existing tracks.

    I would have thought that the biggest issue with the licence would be if they made Silverstone with a bonus ramp at the end, with a flaming hoop...I think that is what the licence would prevent from happening, but the players? The players surely would not have an impact on the F1 licence, that's impossible.

    If you can generate as much $ as you want through DLC/lootbox shenanigans, you can put a level editor into your game ffs. :mad:
     

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    Can anybody explain why the 3090 is 14% faster than the 3080ti despite having just 2.5% more SMs?
     
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    Silicon lottery? the best die are reserve for the 3090 after all. My 3090 can reach much higher clocks than 3080 and 3080Ti at the same voltage (like 100mhz higher)
     
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    Maybe it was a golden 3090 and a particularly bad 3080ti. In reviews, the 3090 tended to clock slightly lower than the 3080ti.

    What average clockspeed does your 3090 run at in gaming?
     
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    Depends on the game but I have seen my 3090 boost around 30-45mhz higher than some Youtuber with the 3090 FE at 400W PL while mine is 375W PL.
    My Asus TUF 3090 OC run at around 1960-1995mhz in CP2077 @ 4K, in some games like AC Valhalla and WD Legions it can reach 2200mhz+, so pretty much my Asus TUF can run neck to neck with the Strix OC version despite having 100W less PL (375W vs 480W)
     
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    1960-1995mhz is with an overclock and slight bump to the power limit, right?

    Out of the box, the 3080ti and 3090 clock about the same, definitely not enough to explain a 14% difference. Have a look at the 3080ti review, the 3090 is about 5% faster and I assume the same cards were used for testing F1 2021:

    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_rtx_3080_ti_founder_edition_review,20.html
     

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