3090 Owner's thread

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  1. suty455

    suty455 Master Guru

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    Do the Fans run constantly or do they shutdown?
     
  2. Dragam1337

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    Ye, you can get it to use alot less juice and thereby run quite a bit cooler by undervolting... thing is, then it wont clock as high, or be as stable. And those are the exact reasons i got the strix in the first place :)

    In valhalla 4k ultra my strix (also with stock cooler) runs @2055 mhz on core, using about 420 watts, running at 71c (23c room temp)... when not using an fps cap that is.

    Cyberpunk is a different story - there it is struggling to stay within the 480 watt power limit, and boost clocks bounce between 1950 and 2050, with temps maxing at 75c.
     
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  3. jura11

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    Assassin's Creed Valhalla doesn't tax GPU as much as Cyberpunk 2077, in Assassin's Creed Valhalla I see 2100-2115MHz with undervolt at 1.0v and in Cyberpunk 2077 I'm bouncing from 1995MHz to 2040-2055MHz

    With undervolt temperatures are same like offset at least in my case, power draw is I would say same

    In Cyberpunk 2077 you can do quickly test use same settings as you usually do, enable DLSS and set DLSS to Performance and see if clocks will bounce or not or you will hit power limit, in my case with DLSS set to Performance I can see my clocks stays at 2100-2115MHz for most of the time

    If you are feel brave then you can always try Kingpin XOC 1000W BIOS

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  4. Dragam1337

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    You are not using the same model though, and using water rather than air... so not really comparable.

    X11 and me are using the same gpu.
     

  5. jura11

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    Hi there

    Alphacool waterblock seems is okay for RTX 3090,many people report temperatures in 30's with these blocks

    I would probably go with larger radiators and run pump much faster and Alphacool pump its not the best pump too there

    As you can see on my loop, I'm running fans at 700RPM on main HWLabs SR-2 360mm and on others running fans bit faster and only on MO-ra3 360mm I'm running fans 1100RPM, I'm running 4*D5 pumps with 4*360mm radiators plus MO-ra3 360mm and if I seen 51°C on my GPUs I would be tearing down whole loop

    I would probably go with 360mm radiators at least if you have space for them and with 360mm radiators you can run fans way slower

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  6. Cave Waverider

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    Yeah, for the very brave as it has all safeties disabled.
    The 520W Kingpin BIOS is within the Spec for the 3x 8-pin + PCIe slot and has the safeties intact and thus should be usable for everyday use. :)
     
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  7. suty455

    suty455 Master Guru

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    Have ordered a aquacomputer pump the alphacool drones like mad very annoying, I ran a 3 hour Aida test earlier CPU and GPU with the CPU on normal PBO, maximum water Temp was 37.8 Deg C with a ambient of 23, however the fans did ramp up to 100% all round I may add a further 280 to the roof as I have the 140 fans already just need to make sure it clears the Ram or if not I can add 360s to the front and side and a 140 fat rad to the rear, lots of room for stuff
    http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-719.html
     
  8. jura11

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    Hi there

    With such case you shouldn't have problems adding more radiator space, I have built loop in Phanteks 719 with 2*420mm radiators and 360mm radiator on bottom, friend has run in thos case ThreadRipper 3990X with dual RTX 2080Ti and in that loop GPUs temperatures never broke 40°C

    Personally I would have look on HWLabs radiators, Alphacool Monsta radiators and for pumps get D5 pump, it will be much better than any DDC pump, Aquacomputer D5 Next pumps are my favourite pumps, depending how many radiators you will run and how restrictive they're are I would say single D5 should be fine, I'm running 4*D5 pumps because I'm running 4*360mm radiators plus MO-ra3 360mm

    In such case is so easy built loop, just choosing right radiators and mainly fans abd you should be golden

    I have run in past Phanteks Enthoo Primo with 5960x with 4.7GHz OC and 3*GPUs setup(GTX1080Ti and GTX1080 and 3rd GTX1080), that loop pulled something like 900-1100W in rendering and in that loop I have run EK XE360 360mm on top and Mayhems Havoc 240mm radiator on bottom and temperatures in rendering I have seen usually 36-38°C that's with all GPUs OC and water temperature never broke 32°C under load, in gaming I have seen 3-4°C water delta and in rendering 6-7°C water delta T

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  9. jura11

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    As with every XOC BIOS have all safety features disabled, have run on my Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix from day one when has been released and no issues at all there, I still use that BIOS for benchmarks or rendering

    On 2 8 pin non shunted RTX 3090 should pull something like 500-580W as max or will pull like 280W per 1st 8pin abd 210W per 2nd 8pin and 80-90W per PCI_E slot with power limit set to 100%

    I will be doing few tests later tonight on my RTX 3090 and see how it performs

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  10. JaxMacFL

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    Got the hybrid kit for my ftw3 3090 ultra in yesterday and put it together today. Went pretty smooth. I did remove the thermal paste off the pump and applied grizzly hydronaut on the gpu. Idles @ 23c, pretty pleased. Ran a couple quick 3D marks.

    Time Spy @ 160/800, average temp 49c, 19,455: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/16667772

    Port Royal @ 175/800, average temp 49c, 14,311: http://www.3dmark.com/pr/686329

    Looking forward to see how far I can push it now.
     

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    Tested Kingpin XOC 1000W BIOS and pleased with results,although power draw is high,if someone is concerned about power draw or you are scared please don't flash it,but without the questions is one of the best BIOS for 2 8pin RTX3090,temperatures are off course higher at 90% power limit,highest temperatures what I have seen has been 38C,usually I see 32-36C as max in benchmarks or in gaming,not tried to run that BIOS at 100% yet

    And here are Port royal results at same OC(+145MHZ on core/1295MHz on VRAM),difference is only Kingpin XOC 1000W BIOS,with KFA2/Galax 390W BIOS my score has been 14279 and with Kinpin XOC 1000W BIOS score is 14908,I will probably try break 15000 later during the Xmas hahaha with 100% power limit

    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/587568/pr/687391#

    Merry Christmas guys and gals and please stay safe

    Hope this helps

    Thanks,Jura
     
  12. suty455

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    I have a D5 but its noisy if over 3200rpm have just ordered myself a 360 for the side mount and that will be it then I will have way more cooling capacity than I will need

    https://www.alphacool.com/alphacool-eisball-digital-rgb-ball-reservoir

    is what I have
     
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    How many watts are you pulling for these numbers?
     
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    I've not seen gpuz report higher than 470w
     
  15. Cave Waverider

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    What's the base turbo clock on the 1000W Kingpin XOC BIOS? I noticed that some old games that don't tax the 3090 much will revert to that clock and some will perform better the higher this clock is set (ignoring any software OC settings). Thus these games receive quite a boost using a BIOS with 1920 base boost of the Kingpin 520W BIOS instead of a 1860 of the regular Strix BIOS, for example.
     

  16. jura11

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    Hi there

    Sorry for late reply, I think boost clocks are same with Kingpin 520W BIOS just difference is 1000W power limit and all thermal protection are disabled with Kingpin XOC 1000W BIOS

    I just want to add if you will be flashing this BIOS be sure your case is well cooled, monitor VRM(I think on Asus RTX 3090 Strix you can monitor VRM temperatures) and VRAM temperatures(check backplate if its hot or how it feels) and be sure you have good PSU because that BIOS at 100% it will pull 700W quite easily

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
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    Alphacool is only one company from which I'm staying away hahaha, I will never use their products, tried few of them like fittings which has leaked, tubing which literally yellowed after 2 months and radiator which come so dirty

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  18. Cave Waverider

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    Alright, thank you. While my case is well-ventilated, I think I'll stay with the 520W for now and try the 1000W once I get a water block for it. I could get an EK block now, but I'm still looking for a good one for the Strix that has an actively cooled backplate, which I'd imagine should help with this card a lot, especially due to the RAM on the backside.
     
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    Anyone running a different bios on the 3090 TUF OC? If so which one? My understanding is that the two slot power connector should put the power limit at about 500watts if unlocked. I'm hitting a max of 374.something right now. Trying to get above that and not sure how. Playing with the voltage % setting in GPU Tweak II isn't changing anything on power delivery.
     
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    So I didn't want to start yet another thread with this question, but I'm having a bit of difficulty figuring it out, so I'll throw it in here,

    I have a Gigabyte 3090 Gaming OC that I've been tweaking for the past few days using MSI afterburner. Stock, the performance wasn't very good, but I've been able to get around an 8-10% improvement on benchmarks by increasing the power limit from 370W to 390W (105%) and tweaking the frequency/voltage curve using the latest version of MSI Afterburner (4.6.3). All the benchmarks and stress tests I've run (Port Royal/Fire Strike/Time Spy/Superposition) have been stable. However, I recently went to run Microsoft Flight Sim, and I started getting pretty frequent crashes to desktop, even after I dialed back the overclock massively. After some analysis using GPU-Z, it seems as if the game isn't taking advantage of the increased TDP limits; rather it maxes out around 360-370W, but still seems to want to run the clocks up and so, predictably, crashes. I then ran DCS (another flight sim) and saw the same behavior in that the board power draw never gets above 370W or so. In both cases, when the power approaches the 370W mark, the performance cap reason reported in GPU-Z is PWR, i.e. the TDP limit. So obviously the demand for extra power is there; the card just isn't taking advantage of it. Anyone have any ideas on why this is the case? I find it superweird that the frequency/voltage curve sticks, but not the expanded TDP limit. In the benchmarks I run, the board draw is definitely pegged at around 390W all the way through, so somehow this quirk is only happening in the games...

    Thanks for taking a look!

    -bbsmitz
     

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