3080Ti vs 3090

I see big navi competing with 3070, and that's when we'll see 3070ti.
3080s are beyond AMD's grasp imo, just an opinion and not one i'm glad about.
Soon as big navi is here 20gb 3080s will show up.

 

I believe that the equivalent of 120 "RDNA 1.0" CUs would be OK. On the other hand, Nvidia now has such a crazy amount of FP32 power in their cards, that even being unused gives them the potential to do crazy things with their drivers in compute-heavy situations.

 

Go for AMD and play CP2077 without RT?, that is the question.

 

It is quite more possible to play without RT with a 2080ti Cyberpunk 2077 Edition gpu than AMD's new big navi.

 

I really think they’ll be alright & can pull it off. What they need & I hope they already addressed it (I am not sure) are more software engineers in different areas of RTG.

 

Yeah someone mentioned in the news that because of the console makers being limited by the wattage of the power supplies AMD had to cap the power of RDNA in the consoles... and that it is a indicator to expect more out of Big Navi once it goes to desktop...

 

I have a feeling that nvidia is back to old self, that 2080Ti coming on same day is a fluke, its 9 month to wait or if AMD surprises everyone and releases something faster then 3080, it will come sooner.
I also agree, rather pay tad more and get the best absolute model, Nvidia never re-released it Titan cards right? Like there are Super versions and Ti models of others but if you by the Titan its guaranteed to be the best till next gen comes out.

 

Titan rtx, titan x, titan black, titan, were not always faster than mortal ti cards. Especially the lower mainstream ones could overclock for real.

If 3080ti overclocks, it should be faster in gaming like 2080ti oc is faster than titan rtx. Is it really worth it to sacrifice speed for cores and memory? Yes if you only play at and with 8k dlss on.

 

Right, so the 3070 - is just beating the 2080ti. As seen in the press or by third party benchmarks too. Combine the percentages from DF and other YouTubers on the comparative process from the cards they did benchmark & you basically get the 3070 either on par or beating the 2080ti on average (mostly beating).

What's odd to me is the change with DX 12.2 lacking parity among PS5/XBOXSX and AMD's official statement "RDNA 2 architecture is the foundation for next-generation PC gaming graphics, the highly anticipated PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X consoles." must be the word foundation. Irregardless. What I wanted to point out was - AMD already confirmed the 50% per watt improvement over RDNA 1st iteration.

Here's what I think "as of right now"

• AMD intended to launch sooner but NVIDIA surprised them
• Big Navi can beat 2080ti by 50% 10% shy of the RTX 3080
• The 3070 was never a concern
• RTX 3080 is competing with "Big Navi" beating it by a 10%
• AMD is trying to tighten the gap via BIOS OCs before launch
• Changing the MSRP is being considered. The minimum, $499 (variations of vram would change that)
• To challenge the 3090 I would imagine AMD will be repurposing designs based on RDNA from the enterprise market and or looking to the year 2021 to use for providing a "Bigger Navi" as it were

 

What are you on about?

Where does the 3070 destroy the 2080Ti?

Where is the claim that 2080Ti is disabled for RTX content coming from? (I know the answer but I'll leave it up to you)

 

The 3080 is a beast. If Big Navi can come in around that sort of performance, then i'm very happy. Hell, that's a massive performance uplift over the 5700xt. I believe they can get there too. As has been stated, they just need to put out solid drivers on release and work on the secret sauce to improve performance over time. But stability is the key to start with.

 

And if it has 16gb like the rumors said i know what way im gonna lean on to.

 

I thought Nvidia said the 3070 was quicker than the 2080ti, no? And we all know how going forwards driver optimisations are focused on the current generation so would expect to see the 3070's performance improve relatively over it's lifetime.

 

Lets wait and see. I can't see the 3070 being any faster than the 2080ti on third party benchmarks.

 

Because it's mentioned a lot of times here, and in other threads, let me ask:

What are you guys referring to when discussing 3070 vs 2080Ti? Traditional performance, the 2080Ti will probably not perform that bad. 4k and / or RT, that's where Ampere shines, right?

 

I would suspect that the 3070 will perform worse than the 2080 ti at 4k, due to only having a 256 bit buffer, and still only gddr6 memory... so alot less bandwidth than the 2080 ti, which usually shows at 4k.

But sure, the 3070 will probably do better with raytracing... which i would hope no one bases their purchase on.

 

Dont forget the driver optimizations being on the 3070 side while 2080ti will get none going forward.

 

True, which will show at 1080p. But basically non of the 256 bit gpus does well at 4k or above.

 

2080ti owners seem so hurt. Get over it. 3070 will match, trade blows or win all tests against 2080ti and by clear margin. It is a new gen.

Look at benchmarks, 1080ti is a breath away or equals a weak 2060 super, matches and trades blows with 2070, and gets trampled by 2070 Super. What's your problem with memory? Do you really believe 2080ti can change weak older cores performance/optimization by utilizing better memory?

 

3070 will win but in time. At the release it will match it only by using rt and dlss. 1080ti is keeping up with the 2080 actually (tested by Steve from HU two days ago) at 4k sometimes win due having more vram. I see what your talking about but its not all that simple and dandy.