NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Seem to perform at GTX 1070 level at 279 USD

And without those 'corporate assholes' you'd have nothing. Innovation doesn't exist when the profit motive is removed. What's funny is you think that AMD is any different. It's all about making money for you, your company, and your employees, and shareholders. If you dont' like it, move to Venezuela. I hear socialism is working out great there.

 

Between the 1660 Ti and non-Ti, the Ti is by far the more interesting card.
I think the only interesting thing about non-Ti is that it'll give us a direct comparison between Pascal and Turing (similar core config and memory).

 

Was that supposed to be funny? To mock the country at the brink of war while you live luxury style life in california.

Great, support them then. RTX on!

 

Gtx 1660Ti 6GB=Gtx 1070 8GB?
Then get a Gtx 1070 8GB used(with some warranty) or Vega 56/64 8GB Hbm2 and forget about this 1660Ti.Or better get Gtx 2060 for the future trend of Ray Tracing.

 

We can't do that Bro!......I know, I know, Grrrr.....still can't do it.

 

Personally I don't want used cards, I'm very stubborn about not buying cards with high power consumption like the Vega cards, and the RTX 2060 is a bit out of what I can afford plus I'm fine waiting for ray tracing to mature a bit before getting a card capable of it (I intend to upgrade again in 2 GPU generations, be it RTX 4000 cards, an AMD card if they manage to improve alot when it comes to power consumption, or even Intel if they offer more efficient cards than the others).

(Though, I'm only upgrading now from a 1060 to 1660 Ti because I want to give my 1060 to my sis as soon as possible, if it wasn't for that I would have waited for the next generation).

 

Take away: 980ti is still up there!

 

Its holding up becouse it has 6gb vram. Take a look at 980 not ti, forgoten already.

 

Odd that Nvidia are releasing a GTX Ti variant so early, especially when this is the space that AMD will be gunning for with Navi later this year.
I would have thought that that Nvidia would have kept that in reserve for responding in case Navi is faster than the 2060 at a lower price.
I forsee this split RTX/GTX lineup getting very confusing at this price point.

 

Makes sense for nvidia to release mid range cards, their 1050ti and 1060 are not holding well against rx570/580/590. Atleast they can take some share of the cake before Navi kick them out again.

 

It's holding up because it was much faster then the 980. It'd perform very similarly with 4gb of ram, and only have a few, rare occasions it'd actually be a noticable issue to have 2gb less ram with otherwise the same specs.

 

Sure, I almost forgot that AMD give stuff away from free. Oh wait, RVII.

 

You remember his competitor the fury x? Imagine if it was possible and it had two stacks of hbm, it would a decent card even today but with 4gb just like 980 forgoten. I tend to believe 980ti had a longer run becouse of it.

 

Makes perfect sense to release 1660ti at this time. It will dominate the mid-range market now. Its going up against RX580/590, not Navi.

 

Not arguing that it doesn't make sense to release a mid range card. I'm just confused as to why they are releasing the top of this range Ti variant straight away, unless they plan to have a 1670 card at some point? In which case why even bother with the RTX line-up if you have to compete with your own cards.

Somebody really needs to sit down with their marketing dept and board of directors

 

So wait, so now turing 1660/ti are going up against polaris? I thought pascal cards ware competing against polaris or not.

 

You can make money without being an asshole. Being a complete dick is not a prerequisite for creating great products (however, it IS a prerequisite for overcharging for them).

I've said before that Nvidia releasing a new GTX line would be a mistake, and I stand by that. This is not to say that the 1660 won't sell well (I'm pretty sure it will) but segregating Turing into RT and non-RT cards will only delay the adoption of ray-tracing, devaluing the RTX brand overall. I still hate the GeForce 4 MX with a passion and I see the 1660 in the same light.

Ultimately though, Nvidia probably doesn't have a choice, as RTX hardware is probably too expensive for mid-range cards, but it further reinforces the notion that RTX was released too soon (Nvidia should have waited a couple of more generations at least).

 

They're filling all price points that they can from top to bottom this time.
They started with the enthusiast cards, 2080 Ti and 2080, then they followed with 2070, 2060, and now 1660 Ti.
Based on rumors, next comes the 1660, 1650, and a price cut for the 1050 Ti.

Yeah, right now it's going against Polaris, at this point Navi could be over half a year away from release, if the Q4 rumors are true.
And when Navi does arrive, depending on their performance NVidia could possibly cut the price of the current GTX/RTX cards anyway.
Though, since they started with a 2080 Ti this time instead of that card coming later, I wouldn't be surprised if the Turing generation ends up being a short one, I wouldn't be surprised if NVidia releases their 7nm cards sometime next year.

 

Unreal already added DXR support and Unity is getting it in a future update. Nvidia's push for RTX/DXR is already pushing the industry forward in a fairly big way. Early adopters may not see the full benefit of the tech but they rarely do anyway. The only issue is cost of the cards.

Also the latest rumors are saying the 1660Ti has 192 Tensor cores which is pretty amusing if true.

 

Its more a matter of what leftover dies you have from a uarch process that can not be used for the upper range products. What do you do with them, throw them away? No, you use them for 1660tis. The 1660/Tis will just replace their Pascal equivalents and offer more of a kick in the performance dept.