GPU Bios !!!

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Fearmania, Jun 8, 2018.

  1. Fearmania

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    Have a nice day. I do not know english. I use google translate.

    Windows is not booting up after updating vbios. BIOS and fast boot option is not working. I can not enter any while the external card is plugged in. It says that it is possible to use internet with two PCI-Express slots, but I only have one slot. Can I fix this with an integrated graphics card? I have heard 1 + 8 pin management, can I do this? I installed the external display card with no additional power when the integrated card was installed. The video card was working but could not find nvflash. (No display adater not found) BIOS update and reset the motherboard.
    mobo:https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-880GM-D2H-rev-40#ov
    gpu:https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/gtx-650-ti-0
     
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    How did you update vbios? What vbios did you update to?

    You probably picked the wrong one.

    That motherboard has intergrated 4250.

    You may try hotswapping the 650.

    By that I mean, boot up with the intergrated graphics, then plug in the 650ti and power cords; it should show up in windows.
     
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  4. WareTernal

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    I WOULD NOT "hotswap" your graphics card, that sounds like a really bad idea. If you corrupted BIOS with a bad flash, I don't see how "hotswap" can do anything good(it's NOT going to reflash correct BIOS for you and could probably damage your hardware).

    You should be able to use the integrated or a PCI adapter to reflash your card.
    You might need to use a flag like "-4" for nvflash to force it.
    There is info here about "blind flash" process, if you can't get any video working:

    As you now know, flashing BIOS is not without risk so read all instructions until you understand the process completely. Good luck!
     
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  5. Agent-A01

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    Hot swapping won't damage a PCIe card.

    As he said, he can't boot when the 'bricked' card is installed; therefore it's worth trying to boot with IGP then try adding the card in.

    Worst case, it will BSOD when hotswapped.
     
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  6. WareTernal

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    Ok...Is there some GPU manufacturer that recommends installing your new card in a powered up system?
    I realize it's in the spec, but does Windows support it? I can't find anyone that recommends it, or even suggest that works with consumer GPUs/motherboards. Seems like an unneeded risk to me, since even if it worked it's not going to do some miracle reflash and fix the card. Since the OP got the message "No display adapter not found" , I thought he was in a position to reflash his card. I'm just trying to get the OP moving forward, so if I have something wrong then please disregard what I've said.
     
  7. Agent-A01

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    PCIe spec allows hot swapping. Windows works with it too,(some devices do not).

    I'm speaking from experience; I've hot swapped GPUs, network cards, raid cards etc before.

    Typically plugging a device in while running is fine, but removing them can make windows do weird things.

    As far as I can tell, OP can not boot with the GPU powered on with power cables in; but it works without power cables but nvflash does not see the card.
     
  8. Fearmania

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    I'd try
    1- I connected the monitor to the integrated card.
    2 - I plug the external video card into the motherboard (without pcie power connectors)
    3- I turned on the computer (noisy)
    4- booting computer or windows open without problems
    5- I can not see the external video card through nvFlash (windows/dos)
    I have already set the first order on the bios to the integrated card. (display init first: onchipvga). This did not work. it does not boot when you insert the external card.
    as far as I can tell from your message.
    1- I must connect the monitor to the integrated video card. open computer.
    2- I have to plug in the external video card while the computer is running after windows is turned on. I have to plug in the power cables. Will the monitor connection be an integrated card? I'm sorry for my bad english.
     
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    Monitor will be connected to the integrated, yes.

    Try leaving GPU inside without power cables, plug monitor into integrated video port on motherboard, turn PC on.
    Then plug in the power cables in GPU once you are in windows.

    See if you are able to see it.
     
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    Uh, are you sure that's wise? :p
     

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    No harm there. Been there done that on probably half a dozen systems.
     
  12. WareTernal

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    OK, that's good enough for me. It would still be one of my last options. Back to business....

    1. Can I fix this with an integrated graphics card?
    Yes, AFAIK you should be able to flash the discrete GPU using the integrated GPU.

    2. I have heard 1 + 8 pin management, can I do this?
    I assume this refers to shorting pins on the BIOS chip to clear it before flash. I'm not sure about this. The pins may be different on different chips. I would try other options before this just to be safe, and make sure you have the correct pins for your chip.

    What exact command are you using to attempt to flash?
    Does "nvflash --list" list the card?
    Did you need "nvflash --protectoff" to enable flashing?

    It's a long shot, but I read a post from a user with AMD card that said that by getting into Windows without GPU power connected, he removed hidden entries for his card from his device manager, and after that was able to get into Windows with the GPU power connected, and at that point he could reflash...
     
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    Thank you. I will try.
     
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    Unfortunately, it did not work.
    it does not react when you plug the power cable into the video card.
    Same again. "no nvidia display adapters found."
     
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    Unfortunately. I can not find a second pcie video card.Does not boot when you plug in the external video card. I think it is not possible with the integrated card.
     
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  17. Agent-A01

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    Get a cheap PCI GPU?
     
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    should be able to find some potato for 5 dollars locally, i used to keep a radeon 7000 pci card around for this purpose.


    the guide also has instructions for blind flashing, (no video output) can be tricky though.
     
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    Please listen to Agent. Also I wonder if you can RMA that biaaaaa****. thx
     
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    PCI-E hotswapping requires bios support and that the controllers registers are enabled for the feature, Linus recently had issues with this feature in a video here




    The controllers have supported it for a long time back, but your weak point is bios support.

    Don't expect it to work on a gigabyte or msi consumer board >..>
     

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