387.92 driver - Error 43 caused by a modified vBIOS?

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  1. boombastik

    boombastik Master Guru

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    In mine gtx 970 i have udated the nvidia uefi gop module so the size is smaller.

    So the bios size i dont think it matters.
     
  2. Agent-A01

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    You tried to flash a vbios with an extended file size, one that newer cards do not use.
    That's why it wasn't working.

    It would have worked the other way around though.
    Fundamentally, there is nothing different between the two cards.

    I own a 980Ti SC and have flashed multiple updated vbios including to different cards like the hybrid.
     
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    Edit: Below is regarding Agent-A01's fix

    Awesome, yeah that worked!

    I'm not great at reading the power table, but it looks liked you picked some lower numbers than what I had. My power limit percentage is now limited to 106%. Did you use a higher watt rating in relation to the percentage? I'm on a custom loop and only ever hit about 37c on my cards so I don't mind juicing them up.

    What did you set for the max watt limit?

    Concerning the voltage table, it looks like I should be able to bump up all the 1212.5 listings a bit higher if need be, correct? My ASIC scores are around 69%, which is why I had the voltage a bit higher.

    Thanks so much again for your help.
     

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    375watt standard. max power limit is 400w

    You won't hit those wattages unless you are ocing way over 1500mhz with high voltages.

    As for voltage i set it at a static 1.21(should be about 1.22 underload) as you get hardly an OC with overvoltage on maxwell.
    Diminishing returns.

    Whats different about mine is you will not throttle EVER unless you hit max temp power limit.
    You should see a minor increase in performance as before there are several small throttling points for maxwell.

    The max voltage i recommend for air is 1.23v~.
    H20 is recommended as the VRM does get quite warm under those cards without active cooling.

    If you can run 1405 @ 1.21 or even higher like 1460 at that voltage then it's not a good idea to run more voltage than required.

    BTW i see a lot of people using these tools without really understanding. It's never a good idea to just jack up everything you see as this can cause stability issues.
    One dude i recall put PCIe to 100w and his card just kept crashing and couldn't figure out why.
    He just did what he read online.
     
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    Wasn't that the same guy that tried to put 100W on the PCI-E lane, both PCI-E cables and power limit up to 1000w each? Then fried his card eventually?
     
  8. ManuelG

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    Filing a bug to look into this. Thank you.
     
  9. Vitloken

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    I have now taken my original bios from my MSI Gaming 980TI and changed all settings och by one and flashed. And in my old oc bios i have when i sett P00,P02 to same on lowest and on highest. 1212,5mV and 1212,5mV the driver cant install. If i leave low on default 600mV and sett highest to 1212,5mV the driver works. I have also lowered max on CLK 35 to CLK 74. Driver works. So for me its just P00,P02 that makes the driver crash on install. I have tested all my normal mods to all the other tabs and they don't seem to affect the driver.
    Edit: did send wrong pic.
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  10. Agent-A01

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    Yes you should not set that as it force pstates below p0 to max voltage.

    You should try a newer build of bios.

    Here 84.00.41.00.2D

    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/178354/msi-gtx980ti-6144-150925
     

  11. maxio

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    Thank you.

    While I agree with you, this was working before.

    Changing just P0 on my card has the same effect, driver will not be loaded.
    Like I said before, I've never had a problem with any previous drivers for over 2 years, now boom...

    So yeah, something is broken.
    Hopefully nvidia is going to resolve this problem.
     
  12. Agent-A01

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    That slider should not be touched and incorrect way to change just P0 state, another issue random people recommend to do that don't really understand what it does.

    Changing just P0 includes one main voltage slider plus 2 other hidden voltages sliders that are not exposed in your screenshot.
    You do not change the other slider in that pic ever.

    So this issue mainly down to incorrectly modded vbios.
     
  13. maxio

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    It's not my screenshot, don't confuse me with Vitloken

    And trust me my vBIOS is fine. ;)
    P0 was just example and for a test on my crappy GT 730

    I completely understand you and I agree with you, it is a wrong mod.
    We have two different cases here.

    Agent-A01: Here is my modded bios: http://www75.zippyshare.com/v/rQ1vlvVa/file.html

    Take a look, do you see something wrong in my mod?
    Yeah, this bios is working fine with previous drivers.
     
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    Did you not read CLK 35 to CLK 74? and all oter tabs? Why you did not go that low i dont now.

    Edit:
    Why do you have deferent mem on P02 than P00 while try to keep same peformance on booth?
     
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    Welp, looks like this driver killed my motherboard and/or cpu I can't post or get into the bios after pulling cmos. I don't know the state of my gpu but I assume it's dead, still troubleshooting...time to try another pc.
     

  16. Agent-A01

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    What?

    You're looking at techpowerup default bios
     
  17. Vitloken

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    Plz tel if you thet problem fore real. Sound likes another problem. On this and 387 driver. It's hopfule nut dead. You just have to. The normal hardcore fix is to remove power from any device inc cmos baterey . ANY. Shortcut cmos poles for some time. Preferred Short än start at same time. Still only MB and PSU. Then pull the plug. Not recomended did and still works on ASUS MAXIMUS 2 and STRIKER EXTREME. (q6600)

    I get the same problems here now and then. do you have an iGPU or external vard. that we can use to do a force reflash. Belive not shore i hade to use an older system once to get an old g92 to make nvflash to see the card (after wrongflash). bios/uefi. dont give it.
     
  18. Vitloken

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    Cant be they have not the guide on why. And I did got some of the parts from a guide and the 1212,5 1405 from one testing. not a guide.
     
  19. Agent-A01

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    Looking at your bios, few things you did do not make sense.

    You don't change P2 clocks, you aren't in that state playing games.
    P0 is max performance state, p2 is 3d power state which in situations that do not use/need high clock speeds.
    P2 state is can also be forced by driver on power virus app(furmark where excess power draw can possibly cause damage) or some cuda apps.

    Also, you don't want to change clock states tab either.
    Those are frequencies in a non boost state which you have altered.

    Also 7800 memory is pretty high for the average card, it's possible that driver is exposing instability that you've never noticed.

    Sorry no idea what you're talking about here lol
     
  20. Agent-A01

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    Here is your bios @Vitloken
    http://www.filedropper.com/nv323mh

    Reduced memory to 7602.
    If you are stable after this you can increase it again.
    7800 exactly is not a correct strap for the memory so set it to what you want by clicking arrow buttons.
     
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