AMD will have to keep the pressure, they can not afford to fall behind again. This will only be a win win for consumers. I hope this refresh in FEB 2018 is true and not just a delay after delay again. They better increase IPC and clock speed 15% min as well otherwise reviewers are going to destroy it.
I agree that the clock speed race is not yet over, although it's getting increasing more difficult to ramp up clock speeds. Thus, adding more cores would be an easier way to add more power, although it depends on application support. Also, enthusiasts like me have already switched over - my current gaming rig is a Ryzen 7 system, paired with a couple of 1080s. I switched because I saw that I would get a lot more computing power with Ryzen (at the same price point) while losing very little in gaming performance. As expected, my Ryzen 7 has provided a big boost to my computing numbers, and I get a smooth gaming experience as well so I'm pretty happy with my setup. If 12nm Ryzen can clock higher then it would be a nice bonus, although I'd probably stay where I'm at. When I upgrade, it'll probably be a Zen 2 or 3, depending on the improvements.
What victory? Last time I checked intel's many core workstation chips which OC anywhere near that (4.8GHz)... 8C/16T ~320W (oc3d); 16C/32T ~650W (Jayz2C). Sure, OC anything you want, but it is unreasonable. If all Zen+ gains is 5% better IPC, stable 4.2GHz for most of chips and 5~10% lower power consumption, it will rule. Because that would mean +16% per core performance for usual Joe while reducing heat (22%+ better performance/Watt).
I'm sorry, but my mom still uses my P4 3.0Ghz, 14 years and going. Of course not everyone keeps their hardware that long, but I can't afford to replace so often. I'm sure many gamers/enthusiasts already did the switch. No, most people are faithful to a brand. Even if AMD would release the new CPU king of performance, people would still buy Intel. 10% over 16nm. Ryzen is 14nm. We have no idea how much gain 12nm will be. Good question, the socket is the same but will we need the X/B/A4xx chipset?
So, a FX 9590 should wipe the floor in those applications that require high clock speeds right? Even better then a 7700k right? Wrong. High clocks matter, but we are comparing apples to pears in here, AMD and Intel have different archs, AMD seems to have the winning hand over the old Intel arch due to the way you can overclock a 4 core or a 16 core to 4ghz without problems and Intel has to downclock their CPUs the more cores they get. So, High clocks are great, but It doesnt mean that much since the netburst era. **This is my opinion, and what I've seen with my current use case**
"AMD said it does not comment on products that have not been announced." Yet, the article is titled as "Announcing...". In terms of sheer stupidity, misleading, confusion and contradiction, AMD beats even Intel...
Eh that goes both ways. Plenty of AMD fans bought $600+ Vega 64s. People will always buy what they want. I was pretty torn between a Ryzen and Skylake X (7820x) build but for a couple hundred more (compared to high end X370 board/1800X/3200MHz RAM), the 7820X build is in another tier of performance at 4.8GHz. Thats why I say enthusiasts are looking for that jack of all trades build. Strong single and multicore performance for gaming, editing, rendering, DAW use, etc. Ryzen is a great perf per dollar offering. If Ryzen had better single core perf and higher clocks, no question I would have Ryzen chip in my build.
If this ends up being improved as much as the fab process change suggests it might/can be, it's gonna be very hard to resist getting an 8core.
Am I the only one who registered the new motherboards mentioned in this article. I thought the x370 and B350 will be supporting the future Zen upgrades as AMD promised to support this AM4 for the long haul.
They should keep this in the down low and surprise Intel when they think they're ahead. Example: -This announcement never happens -Intel announces it's own 12nm due May 2018 -AMD releases it's own 12nm in March or something -Intel BTFO
They will support it,but AMD needs to throw a bone to mobo manufactures,hence new boards,i highly suspect they will bring anything new to the market.Think of it like situation that amd had recently with graphic cards,it needed to release something new so we had a case of nothing new just pure re brand (RX470->RX570 and RX480->RX580).I highly suspect this is some case (got no proof).
According to the "leaks" i saw on internet,AMD is releasing new CPU's in February(different mobo manufactures all say 02/18)We shall see how it turns out (even if its late month or two)
The dates were just an example, I'm clueless when it comes to release dates since I won't be able to buy any of the new stuff for a couple years
As a current Ryzen owner the 7nm on the charts interests me most. I sure hope they can get a 7nm Ryzen out in 2019 that would be a perfect upgrade time 2 ish years after getting Ryzen.
Huh cool, sounds like AMD's CPU sector is crunching it at warp 10. I thought it be a year till the next CPU refreshes drop, very cool. Good stuff.