Do you think AMD Zen will put AMD back in the game?

i don't think amd can beat intel high end cpus ... but i'm sure new amd zen cpus is going to be so far better than current fx cpus.
not a fan boy ... i just hope ....

 

AMD Publishes Patent for Zen Based APUs with Integrated FPGAs and HBM2 Memory on a 2.5D Interposer

 

Link is dead, Turanis.

 

the link is dead because the source is wccf....

 

wccf is good for what it is intended to be, a rumour site. There is a place for unconfirmed but interesting stuff and then there's a place for factual stuff (like on Guru3D). So, stuff on there shouldn't be automatically dismissed, you just need to take it with a grain of salt.

The fact that there is a patent suggests there is some element of truth to that article, the real question will be for what application will this patent be applied? High end/enthusiast consumer, data centre application, next gen console, specialised scenarios, or a mixture of any or all of these.

 

I was just stating why the link didn't work.

 

No doubt this release will be pushed back and marketing will fail to deliver the hype they started.

 

That's exactly why I chose the parts I did.... I could survive on my Lenovo laptop at home and my Asus laptop at work, but given AMD's history of delayed launches and overhyped products, I figured I was better off just going with Skylake now instead of waiting a year, being utterly disappointed and buying into Skylake anyway. At least this way, if Zen is a viable choice, I can easily just build a second system and have both.

 

Yeah sorry about that.
well again(change it):

wccftech...com/amd-patent-zen-apu-integrated-fpga-hbm2/

In short:
AMD Publishes Patent for Zen Based APUs with Integrated FPGAs and HBM2 Memory on a 2.5D Interposer

The addition of HBM2 memory would enable AMD offerings to have an edge over Intel’s. While Intel is dabbling in Hybrid Memory Cubes, it has not yet, managed to integrate it into an Xeon FPGA lineup. Also if Zen micro-architecture lives up to its name, it should be more than a match for Intel’s counterparts – especially considering the main requirement for most data-centres and semi-custom servers is energy efficiency (something HBM2 will excel at, not to mention Zen). Infact AMD has already been approached by Facebook to build them a semi custom server processor for their data centres and there is a probability involved (caution: speculation) that this patent might have something to do with that.

HBM2 (memory) offers significant bandwidth upgrades over HBM1 while staying on the same VDD level of 1.2V. And with the advances made (or rather promised) in Zen micro-architecture, the power efficiency of this contraption should be pretty impressive. Unfortunately, like most patents, this one is pretty vague as well, but from what I could gather, the reconfigurable logic (FPGAs) will be an optional intermediary step between the main processor and the memory. Providing the FPGA with custom logic, will allow the user to minimize latency and drastically reduce bottlenecks of any interconnect and get workloads processed almost directly. Its also worth noting that this is almost certainly an APU design – so Greenland graphics should be on the table as well.

 

What will come first?

A competitive AMD CPU, or HL3?

 

They're DEFINITELY on the right path.

They're basically doing what Intel did after the P4 netburst junk (they returned to the updated design of the P3 for mobile platforms and started there with the Core-series, then Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad and finally the Core i-series which started with the Lynnfields (i5 750 etc.) and is continued to be slightly refined for each "generation", AMD is scrapping the current architecture and puts it hope to the Zen-architecture for a new competitive CPU-future.

We'll have to wait until next year to know if Keller manages to do another magic trick like he did with the Athlon64 which put AMD on the map and gave them a huuuge chunk of the CPU market for years.. until the EOL for that architecture and they made the wrong turn.

(They expected OS'es, applications and games to be extremely multi-threaded, something we know never happened due to the inherent problems with developing highly synchronized and evenly-distributed multi-threaded code since the platform (hardware and OS) wasn't built for that kind of execution).

 

Probably Half Life 5 or 6 is my bet.

 

I want it to be competetive but im not seeing it happen.

 

There's no real information on Zen besides what they claim is going to happen. AMD claims lots of things..

 

No, not for the desktop market at least. The only thing I've seen vaguely alluded to was a 32 core server chip.

 

AMD needs a win I agree with don't over hype and if the product is aimed at midrange i3 - i5 let people know that's the target and that's the performance there aiming to beat or equal and the product will be at that price point.

If they don't have high end product that's fine just don't make us expect more then we are going to get

 

This is indeed good news. They need to start over from scratch or redesign a cpu based off an older AMD cpu such as the Athlon64.

 

Nothing is going to help AMD unless they deliver exactly what they promise and do so on-time.

 

I for one here am really looking forward to seeing how Zen turns out and how HBM 2 helps it perform at various tasks.

Of course I would Love it to beat out Intel's offerings even if only the their i7-Quad cores, but even if it only come close it is still the most interesting thing in CPU land right now - a little Mystery is always fun

 

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/38694-private-equity-to-get-20-percent-of-amd

http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/09/amd-to-set-up-radeon-graphics-chips-as-a-separate-business/

So, the same exact day we learn Silver Lake is going to purchase 20% of the company, the GPU division gets set up as a separate business unit?

Sorry, but lets call it what it is: AMD is preparing to split apart, and it looks like the GPU unit is first to go.

Figured this was going to happen; AMD is more or less out of cash, and it looks like Radeon is being sacrificed to keep Zen funded.