390x bios leaked

Thank you guys for the great work!

But I'm not exactly sure how to use the tool... Can someone explain it to me?
GPU-OC and more voltage for 3D only
+50% power limit
custom fan profile

Do you also have a link to the latest BIOS for a reference R9 290 with UEFI GOP?

 

DDSZ working on fan table edit

 

one b1t mate, can you help me with POWERLIMIT

you said im throttling badly but im not sure how much higher i can take the power limit slider,
i know LN2 bios`s go up to 500 and i used 330
not sure exaclty why it should be power throttleing cause i was told that 202 x 50% power limit = 330

so it shouldn't be throttling but your right something is wrong cause 1150/1600 is faster than 1200/1600 for some reason.

could it be the PCI express ??? i dont want to go over its power rating but i wouldn't mind figuring out how to maximize it.

 

That calc is wrong , you never read mine correctly, you're already at +63% if you're using 330.

Just as a update I got a new OC edition bios from Sapphire for my Vapor-X , this factory one now comes with:-

OC TDP = 238 , Max Power Delivery Limit = 229 , TDC = 238

GPU:1080MHz RAM:1410MHz

 

ahhh i see where i went wrong now lol
your correct i read it wrong hahaha instead of adding 101 i added 303 lol

but if i add 101 and remove the 202 then wouldnt that reduce power limit ? i thought i was to add 101 on to 202 = 303..... ? im still not getting it, must be the rusty brain syndrome tonight lol

 

Your bios read 202 .

I added 50% , 50% = 101 .

202 + 101 = 303

You enter 303 as new value in HawaiiReader.

 

thats what i had before ? i did add 303 lol
but im guessing i added the 303 to the wrong 2 boxes.

so if i add 303 to the power limit, what do i add to the other 2 boxes.

NINJA EDIT

or is this what you mean ?

 

Your defaults were:

TDP = 202
Power limit = 202
TDC = 137

If we add 50% :

TDP = 303
Power limit = 303
TDC = 206

I did say in PM that TDP / Power limit increase by 50% but test TDC by increments of 10 and graph GPU core clock in MSI AB?

If it is flat line of 1200MHz then you're not hitting a power limit wall.

Also graph GPU usage / temp / voltage just to get bigger picture.

I have noted on low GPU usage like when a scene change occur GPU will take that opportunity to downclock to use less power, thus less heat being produced, etc ,etc .

If 1150 / 1600 is faster than 1200 / 1600 perhaps with upped GPU core the IMC/RAM is having ECC / EDC errors (these you won't see on the screen as artifacts).

 

Ok i will test your settings, and report back,

TDP = 303
Power limit = 303
TDC = 206 (as for this setting i will up this 10 at a time and test though i would really like to know how high you can have this setting at some LN2 bios had this set @500 so im guessing the board power/controller has enough grunt as long as the temps are good....

as for your theory about why speeds are faster @1150/1600
compared to 1200/1600

if it was memory controller issue related then i wouldn't get issues would i cause theoreticaly 1600 works perfect for me i can even go as high as 1690 max slider without issues.

its more core related issue = power issue or something else thats causing the reduction in speed could i be draining the pci express 3.0 @16x or bandwith related due to that.. as you know for performance with these cards you would net more performance with higher core than memory. so not sure what it could be.....
only thing i can think of is the TDC limit setting being to low and strangling my cards performance bandwidth.

 

Hello Plug2k,

I have completed my testing of the BIOS posted above. I see no reason to go back and test the other BIOS you created with lower 3D clocks and power limit because this BIOS is 95% stable! I will post the tests I ran on it down below for your review.

2D Tests:
1.) Surfing the web and watching Youtube / HTML5 based videos was smooth.
2.) Running Microsoft Office and various other programs posed no issues at all.

3D Tests:
1.) Ran Unigene Valley on max settings at 3440 x 1440p for 30 minutes + a benchmark run after the 30 minutes was up. Score Link: http://www.filedropper.com/valleybenchmark
2.) Ran 3DMark11. Score Link: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10056450
3.) Ran the full suite of 3DMark. Score Link: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7771999
4.) Played some random games from my steam library. (Modded Fallout 3, Battlefield 4, Etc.) Now this test is where things get curious. See the paragraph below.

REGARDING 3D TEST #4: Some of the games actually would cause a light crash in which I had to close the game via. Task Manager. I solved this issue by going into MSI AB and setting the PowerLimit from 0% to 50% and adding +50mv to the Core Voltage. Now I'm sure that is probably over-kill so I will do some testing with lowering it. But as it stands now it seems that this BIOS does not allow the R9 290 enough voltage to run 1050/1250 at stock. Could this issue be fixed somehow?

All of these tests went flawlessly except 3D test number 4. The temperatures on the core and VRM were not an issue either. I should also note that I am forcing constant voltage through MSI AB and have ULPS disabled. But other than that I hadn't done anything special.

So in the end, due to 3D Test #4 I believe that this BIOS is not quite stable for all reference R9 290/290X users just yet. With a few minor changes / updates it very well could be though! Plus another important piece of information that I am lacking is what memory-types this BIOS is compatible with. As far as I know Stock R9 290/290X BIOSes are compatible with:

4096 MB, GDDR5, Autodetect
4096 MB, GDDR5, Hynix H5GQ2H24AFR
4096 MB, GDDR5, Elpida EDW2032BBBG_DEBUG2

And are NOT compatible with:

4096 MB, GDDR5, Samsung K4G20325FD

So if you could offer any insight on that front that would be amazing. I know my Reference HIS cards have the Hynix memory but beyond that I'm not sure. Thanks again for the BIOS though. If you end up creating any newer / better revisions of it please let me know as I will be more than happy to test it.

-Insan1tyOne

 

In PM I stated to increment from default by 10, which was 137 and test. As you're at 206 and been using it I wouldn't personally increase that until some one with more experience can give you guidance.

The Asus Matrix has 14 phase VRM, 295X2 does not.

Have view of the MSI Lightning 290X (15+3+2 phases) product page as well (another card aimed at LN2 use) see under heading LN2 for some specs.

295X2 is 5+1 per GPU IIRC from reviews I read.

Like I said you won't see artifacts with ECC / EDC error, we can't check for them plus as GPU speed rise RAM will OC less (generally and you must of read that?) also read this post Link:- http://www.overclock.net/t/1561904/mlu-bios-builds-for-290x/10#post_24120051

 

If you know where the original bios came from, it should tell you on techpowerup vga database what memory compatibility the bios is for,

next get people to run this little memory program and it will detect what memory there graphics card is using then you will know if the bios is compatible for them.

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http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=90092431361838018709

 

thanks for more info mate, really helpful
ok i will put that setting back to bios default and rase it 10 like you said then test dont want to burn anything out, as for the power of the 295x2 i didnt know that info, going from that info the power phase of these cards is not that great ehh.

 

You should be safe with 206 , why I say that is Sapphire Tri-X 290X OC edition bios has 208 there, which is an AMD ref PCB ie 5+1 .

And I'd just like to say I checked bios for the 5+1 Tri-X and not the new edition Tri-X which has 8+8 pin and 1 extra phase.



Above image was sourced from a German review site and IIRC info from Sapphire to reviewer.

New edition was released few months before 390X released. I have read posts where people think this was Sapphire getting ready for 390X.

 

Just to be safe haha

testing this out, so far so good, no throttling....
i will test the 1200mhz/1600mhz again in firestrike when i get a bit free time thoguh want to test the 1150/1600 first.

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tombraider vsync off max settings everything @3440x1440.


*notice the voltage naming system i have going lol

 

Plug2K,

Ah I see, thanks for posting that! As for making the modded BIOS stable on stock clocks for R9 290's as I was talking about in my above post. Is that possible? If so how could I go about doing that?

The goal is to get the BIOS to the point where you flash it and the R9 290 has enough juice to run 1050 / 1250 stable without using programs like MSI AB to bump up the powerlimit and core voltage.

Thanks Again!

-Insan1tyOne

 

I thought thats what i already supplied to you ?
a bios that is fully stable in 3d on ref 290x`s cards without using MSI ?

EDIT: i see you ninja edited lol

ok here you go: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=05303831528884634587

Monitor temps, though im not sure why you would want power limit bumped cause @1050mhz there shouldnt be any need for powerlimit as the card wont be underpowered to be able to throttle at those speeds.
but anyway i have you 50+ PL so you shouldnt need to mess with powerlimit in msi, also bumped the 3d voltage slightly more so make sure you check your temps when testing. 1.23v-1.24v depending on vdroop.

have fun.

 

Plug2k,

Haha yes, my apologies for the ninja edit. It was quite a major one! Thank you for the updated BIOS as well! I will be sure to flash it tomorrow and do more testing with games and not just benchmarking software. Keep an eye out for my report tomorrow.

- Insan1tyOne

 

Ok, soo i've edited my 2d voltage to 900, flashed bios,fresh installed drivers and msi ab,and the voltage is still at 961 at stock clocks and rises up to 1004 when i imput my overclock. Soo what am i doing wrong?