970 memory allocation issue revisited

No, just short memory, as you suggested earlier. Which is why I keep notes of things like that and this one is missing. And yes, I don't read or care that much about mobile graphics. Searches came up with nothing though, do you have a link of sorts?

 

i need to ask.. are u trying to justify nvidia ?

 

no, not at all. need to ask... do you disagree with my post? did reviewers get bad rep?

Nvidia did bad here, no doubt. mistake or not, they messed up. but some of the nonsense on here is beyond a joke.

 

tbh after 4 months and non of them saw this issue.. now that is something that i don't understand at all..

by that point of view and assumption even HH should be bashed because of it


p,s because this is nvidia and they do have ****ty fraudulent practices i would not be surprised that they did this on purpose, because they had 4 months to clear this up, but they did it only after andantech expose them.. so i think they knew and ripped ppl off

 

glad we see eye to eye on this. that being said, it could have been a mistake. I really don't see why nvidia would hide the number of rops. then again, I can see why they would want to hide how the vram is handled. even then, I would still have bought the 970. it's £200 cheaper than the 980 and performs really good and scales up nicely with the 980 even at 4k gaming so I really don't see an issue. These 4k reviews were there at launch btw, people could see how well these cards cope at that res, well, they cope with it almost as good as the 980, which is still not good enough, but there's no dramatic drop offs anywhere to be seen.

 

that is not the point tbh.. it is the principle of it.. nvidia should be sued because of this business practice.. to hell with fps if nvidia takes u for a fool and gives u a product that is not as advertised

 

the whole problem is that many of us were mislead by the spec's of the card. nvidia has done this before and did nothing to fix for the price that I paid to have said features.

I will admit that nvidia cards tend to perform a bit better. But that doesnt give them the right to take advantage of me and do nothing to fix the issues.

As it stands I have a card that is not as represented and feel that something should be done to rectify that

 

I agree 100% with you.

 

Fixed. Would've been good PR if they did offer that and burn the 970 cards as a PR stunt.

 

Nvidia can always reissue a pullback of all the cards (Nvidia covers the costs ofc.)?
Seen it happen with cars quite a few times (forced even), so shouldn't be an issue for graphic cards either.
I guessed that they would let retailers now that all returned GTX970's will be covered, since it is Nvidia that has messed up.

 

Must have missed that. A lot of pages to go through. What happened?

 

I think you guys killed him with off-topics.

 

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news...faulty-processor-suit-dell-hp-compaq-mac.html

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370032,00.asp

There's 2 of the articles. There are a lot of articles posted as late as 2010 regarding this suit.

Agreed.

If NVidia were to recall the cards, that'd be a different issue. NVidia would have to do something to compensate all involved for the recall.

I only saw a couple of the posts. Didn't really pay much attention to the contents of the posts themselves. At this point, I expect NVidia to be in full defense mode, trying to protect themselves in any way possible.

 

Just pondering..
How much does all of this affect the same cards just with different memory chips, Hynix and Samsung?
The one with Hynix should drop more than the one with Samsung when they are clocked equally cause of Samsung's tighter timings, right?

 

I'm going to make exception to your question. After this post I’m not going to answer anything else in this thread.(I’m not participating in flame wars)

Let’s imagine you are a company producing GPUs. What your main marketing is, are reviews.
So what I would do is take a generic review of every website I’m in contact and do these test on new GPU that I want to put on market. If no issues are found in the review I can hide ANYTHING especially HW flaws.

Why loose of credibility? I expect from sites like guru3d, anandtech, tomsHW, techspot, OC etc etc etc… to find it, not really exact problem, but to find that something is WRONG. That there might be hidden problem. This is a big marketing. Money talks. Maybe you would buy the card either way, but can u say the same for others…NO!
If any of 970 owner will have glitches or game problems, there always will be a question what IF.

What could reviewers take from this, is not only do same generic tests every time, but do some more extensive testing, at least with stock units.

 

Thanks o/

 

How could reviewers have tested upon something that they did not know about?
Heck, it even took the gaming community some months before they found out that something was wrong.

 

I cry myself to sleep every night over 3gb of vram.

 

Cryin' won't help you ^^

 

Looks like people are returning them, may be an ideal time to grab a B Stock/Open Box card