Building a stepping-stone rig, need guru advice

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  1. Fender178

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    Yeah that Pentium K chip OCs pretty nicely too.
     
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    Yeah his 920 was only $50 but the Sabertooth X58 cost $200.

    Go figure....lol
     
  3. Doug

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    Thanks again guys :) @Pill+Dark, I'll keep an open mind regarding the X58's and Xeons and what-not :)

    I've never had anything new and current, I'm a bit sick of hand-me-downs and last-gen products you know... Will be nice psychologically to have some new kit and it will still be a big improvement over my current PC.

    @Fender - I love to OC so I'll be squeezing every last drop out of the Pentium K :D I took my previous E5200 I bought off Kylzer (remember that guy?) to 4Ghz on air with the Noctua D-14 I won in the Christmas giveaways right here a few years ago, interested to see how far these new chips will go!
     
  4. Darkest

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    Be sure to let us know the results when you get it, I suspect you'll hit at least 4.5ghz.
     

  5. Doug

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    Will do, although I only have a Freezer64 Pro as I traded the Noctua for my GTX260 a long time ago.

    Arg, I have one more question. I'm looking at different motherboards now on a different website. I've had a quick google and I can't see any major differences, but is it worth getting a Z87 motherboard now that there are Z97's? From what I can see the difference is negligible, for me at least.

    For example I had this in my basket, and then I saw this.

    And I've always loved the idea of building a powerful mATX which this seems ideal for.

    Sorry to be a pain but these 3 boards are all pretty much the same thing or am I missing something? I know they can all OC, I plan to only ever run a single GPU, one day purchase an SSD for OS and key games and a mechanical drive for storage. So I think I'll be fine with any of those 3, even the mATX, am I right?
     
  6. Darkest

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    Always go for the newer tech when you can, I would opt for a Z97 over a Z87. If you want to go the mATX route there's Z97 options you can take a look at. Be sure not to confuse the Z and H boards, the Z boards have ample overclocking options. You wont get far on an H97.

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-500-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2811

    This would be an option for a budget board that you'll get a half decent OC out of, while being micro-atx. Although I'd be tempted to spend the extra tenner to get something a little better.
     
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  7. Doug

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    Thanks mate, going cross-eyed trying to keep track of all this new stuff, lol. I guess this would be the one then, £11 more. I'd have bought the H97 without realising and had a nasty shock if you hadn't have said that. :thumbup: I think its the 7's and the Z's being such similar characters, derp!
     
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    Easily done mate, especially if you're out of the loop. The naming conventions can get a little confusing. That's the board I'd go for if building a m-atx rig on a budget, lovely piece of kit.
     
  9. Doug

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    That's reassuring, thanks again.
     
  10. Darkest

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    You'll see a very healthy improvement to be honest, with good future upgrade options when you need them. The Z97 platform is fantastic, very much looking forward to your impressions.
     

  11. yasamoka

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    What monitor do you have, Doug?
     
  12. Doug

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    I can't wait, I'm sure it'll blow me away. SSD is what I'm really excited for, though. I'm eyeing up that 240GB Kingston drive for £70ish iirc.

    Another hand-me-down from a friend, just a rubbish Hannspree 16:10 19". It does the job for now, a 120/144hz is going to be a major luxury for the future.
     
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    Be wary of the Kingston drives, there was some fuss a little while ago about them replacing same name/model drives with slower than advertised replacements. I'm not saying that's the case for them all, but be sure to look into it before purchase.
     
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    Oh really, good to know, thanks! I'm on my phone now so can't link it easily, the description listed its speeds at around 450/450 read/write, wondered why it was so cheap. I'll investigate closer to the time. Do I want a case first or more hardware, decisions decisions :infinity:
     
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    I'd be in two minds in your situation, a nice new m-atx motherboard would sorely tempt me to buy a new case. That said, you'll see direct performance benefits with new hardware.
     

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    Yeah it's the lovely little cases that draw me to mATX, but GPU and 8GB RAM is the next priority. Besides, I've quite enjoyed having my PC alfresco since I binned my last case :)
     
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    You'll definitely benefit from a nice new GPU, I'd recommend going for something with at least 2gb of GDDR while being fast enough to really use most of it. A 7870/660 or some such. You might pay a little more than you would for a 560, but if you're happy to look second hand you should be able to find a deal for under the £90-100 mark. Sometimes it's worth spending a little more in the long run.
     
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    I was looking at 7870's as it happens, one guru is selling his but not yet, so I will see. I was buying the GTX560Ti more out of "necessity" as one of my GTX260's overheats and grey-screens after about 30 minutes of gameplay, and the other one's resistors or capacitors start shrieking at me and then BSOD in much the same fashion..

    I imagine the 560 would hold its value for a few months at least while I sort out a better GPU, maybe lose £10 on it but that's fine. Thanks again Darkest and everybody, been a big help :)
     
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    That's understandable mate, hope you get it sorted. More than happy to help, anytime.
     

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