AM3+ mobo

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by damnboy, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. damnboy

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    Hello,

    I just would like to ask u guys from ur experience which mobo should i go with:

    AMD FX-8350
    2x VGA 7870

    I was looking for cheap one so there they are:
    Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 - 109$
    ASUS 970/SB950 SAM3+ ATX/M5A97 LE R2.0 - 101$
    AsRock 970/SB950 SAM3+ ATX/970 PRO3 - 82$

    And please comment why, not just an option.
     
  2. BLEH!

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    I'd go with either the Gigabyte or Asus board from experience, though I do hear the newer AsRock stuff is pretty solid. Recently built my mate a rig using the Gigabyte 970 UD3 board, it's a tad more expensive than the D3, but should stand up a bit better to overclocking etc, and comes with a few more, fancier features. The FX-8350 is a good chip for the money, good luck with the build. Make sure you get some of the faster RAM (1600 MHz +) as well to make use of the extra bandwidth in the piledriver memory controller. Hope that helps.
     
  3. XBEAST

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    First, do you already have FX-8350? Are you planning to use this PC for gaming?
     
  4. damnboy

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    I don't.. But i am planning to buy a rig for myself in near future. Fot the money it costs in my country there are nothing better than this CPU for 220$. Well yes, i am planning to play games with it. Not hardcore, but ye. Really wanna try crossfire! I think twice price one VGA should be better and CF is a headache but still i wanna try it :D Anyway most of the games are GPU related so.

    This cpu just suits better for my needs. I do not need intel, cuz decent cpu costs 50% more than this. So ye, the main question is about mobo. Trying to decide which to buy. Somehow i like Asrock. And it looks better than baby blue..
     

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    If you go with two 7870 Crossfire you need two pcie slots running at x8. In other words you need at least 990X chipset. This is Gigabyte board you looking for:

    1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x16 (PCIEX16)
    1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x4 (PCIEX4)
     
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  6. XBEAST

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    Are you sure? How much do any of these cost: i5 3450, i5 3470, i5 3550, i5 3570K? At least in US/EU i5 3570K costs the same as FX-8350 and non-K models are even cheaper. Any of i5s is significantly faster in games.
     
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    ^Funny, I thought this was the AMD section....do you work for Intel? :3eyes:

    Well I prefer ASUS, however the 970 is for single cards only so you'll need at least 99X (x16 + x8) or 990FX Sabertooth (x16 + x16).

    The M5A97-LE is a bad choice anyway due to non-heatsinked analogue 4+2 phase VRM.

    I recommend the ASUS 990FX Sabertooth (Rev 2.0); it has 8+2+2 digital VRM with heatsinks, Vishera support and comes with a 5yr warranty.

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. XBEAST

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    I'm helping the guy... That's what I do. I assemble The Best gaming rigs in every way possible, including performance and value.

    Guy is on low budget and you're recommending him an overpriced AND overkill MB? How is that going to help?
     
  9. Pill Monster

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    No all you ever do is knock AMD, seriously.

    I guess you missed the following comment by OP?

    Overkill? Hardly....

    This is overkill;

    [​IMG]

    There's always the 99X if the Sabertooth is out of his reach.
     
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    You're mean. I don't hate any company and I don't love any. I don't judge a company by its philosophy or views. The only thing that matters to me is the final product. FX has its in some fields, but in gaming any i5 will be better than any current AMD CPU. Even i3 3220 might be better than FX.

    I asked if he's sure about prices. Either prices are waaaaay off in his country, or he's comparing FX-8350 to i7. That would explain 50% price difference.
    Sabertooth for FX is an overkill. Because FX-8350 + Sabertooth would cost the same as i7 3770K + Extreme3.
     
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    ^The Extreme3 has 4+1 phase VRM. You get what you pay for....
     
  12. XBEAST

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    i7 3770K + 990FX? Are you making fun of me?

    I was talking about Z77 Extreme3, which has 8+3 (probably 8+2+1). This is very strange because due to higher FX power consumption AM3+ mobos should have better VRMs. Another thing, Z77 Extreme3 costs the same as 990FX Extreme3.
     
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    Why don't you wait till the OP says what country he's in.

    Prices in his region might be like where I am, where the 3770K is $130 more than a 8350 or $200 more than the 8320.

    That's a big difference...

    Anyway this has nothing to do with the thread. OP wants advice on AM3+ boards not CPU suggestions.....tho I'd go 8320 over 8350.
     
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    I asked him how much any of i5 costs, but he hasn't answered yet.

    i7 3770K is not worth the money over i5, not even over FX. It was just an example to show what a waste Sabertooth with FX would be. But it does really look that OP is comparing FX-8350 to i7 3770K.

    If by any chance i5 3330/3450/3470/3550/3570/3570K are 50% more expensive in his country, and those mobos are the only ones in his price range, I'd probably go with 970A-D3. Good slot layout, 4 LowerRds MOSFETs per phase, angled SATA ports. Newer revisions also comes with VRM heatsink.

    PCI-E 2.0 x16/x4 might reduce CF performance.
     
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    970 doesn't support CF/SLI. As I mentioned before, OP will need 99X minimum which will give him x16+x8.
     

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    Pretty much any modern motherboard with two PCI-E x16 (physical) slots support CrossFire. Only SLI needs certification.

    It's just that PCI-E 2.0 x16/x4 will cause a performance hit.
     
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    Exactly, so it basically defeats the purpose of CF.
     
  18. damnboy

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    So i5-3570k costs 300$. AMD-8350 costs 200$. And i5-3450, 3470 costs like 10$ more than AMD-8350.

    I think (i could be wrong) 8350 should be great for most of the games. And new games will support multicore, so why 3850 is bad for games then? I like AMD for some reason. Maybe i missed my Athlon 64 3000+..

    The main thing that i am going to spend for around 1000$. Did not find PSU which i am going to buy but considering some corsair maybe. (recommend please!! and 750W will do the job right? with OC). Going for hybrid or HDD+SSD and 8GB of ram. It will be enaugh right? Will do some OC. Maybe will stick with 1 graphic card for start and upgrade later, not decided yet.
     
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    Go with i5 3470 then. FX-8350 is not meant for games. It's more of a workstation/server CPU, good for things like rendering, archiving, encrypting. Basically, where core count is more important than per-clock performance. In general use and gaming i5 will be better.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/702?vs=697&i=505.506.60.61.62.129
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8350_6.html#sect0

    Athlon days are long gone. Just move on. Don't judge a company. Judge a product.

    For PSU get something like Corsair TX750 V2 or any XFX 750W. There might be some other good choices, depending on where you live.

    For motherboard best get ASRock Z77 Extreme3 (or better). It has two PCI-E 3.0 x16 slots working at x8/x8 and will allow to overclock i5 3470 to about 4.0-4.3 GHz.
     
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    ^Jesus do you ever quit? You're behaving like an Intel troll...I'm starting to think you should be banned from AMD section.

    Aside from Starcraft II all games get over 60fps so what's the problem? Wow, the 8350 gets 120fps instead of 145fps in Arkham City - yeah performance is terrible.

    OP if you want real feedback on how Vishera performs just check out some posts in the AMD section by people that actually own the 8350. They are all very happy.
    Xbeast just has a real chip on his shoulder regarding AMD and repeats basically the same thing in every related thread.....
     

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