AMD gaining marketshare in declining discrete GPU market

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  1. Speed Weed

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    Possibly one of the reasons for a declining market is that people are making do with the cards they have, if they are able to handle tody's games pretty well. :)
     
  2. Redemption80

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    I can enjoy lower, but if higher is possible then I put off playing, probably why I don't hate framerate caps that much, as it for forces me to just enjoy the game.

    Personal curse is quite accurate, which is why I won't go near a 120hz screen, expensive enough hobby as it is.
     
  3. Outrance

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    Years ago I used to play games without AA because it didn't bother me. Nowadays if a game doesn't support a minimum of 4xMSAA or I can't force it somehow then I won't play it (same monitor).
     
  4. sykozis

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    Well, S3 hasn't released anything new since 2009. They've never targetted the "high-end" market themselves. Their old Savage4 GPU (back in the late 90's) was the closest they ever got to "high-end"....and even it was only a mid-range offering. Now they're focusing on entry-level and HTPC. Apparently last year they were acquired by HTC.....
     

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    what no 3dfx? at least give them .0001%, people sell cards on ebay lol
     
  6. sykozis

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    They don't track second hand sales
     
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    It was a joke?
     
  8. PinguX

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    The gtx480 and gtx580 were both about £400 at launch.

    Software needs to catch up with hardware for most gamers to justify spending the money on new gpus.
     
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    Well what do ya know. S3 does make discreet cards. Some seriously powerful cards too :3eyes: Their "top of the line" card barely justifies the size of the PCB, it's just "bristling" with technology :nerd:

    Still wonder who actually buys them tho. Must be some OEM using them.
     
  10. Redemption80

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    Yeah, but the GTX680 was £450-500 when it launched.
    As I said, I was meaning AMD more as the article is about them, and the 6970 was around £300 and under at launch, while the 7970 was £400 upwards.

    Software caught hardware a while back, but you can’t expect every developer to care about visuals, as many don’t and prioritise performance and gameplay.
     

  11. Lane

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    Depend what games you play, the resolution you play at.. And thats only for high end gpu's.. dont forget OEM, laptop etc.. peoples who had a low end cards or a really low middle class cards.

    You can still play with a 5770 or a GTX460 1024mb, but in some games and depending the resolutions thoses cards start allready to struggle in some titles.. you need allready decrease the quality from a notch, or reduce AA.


    Peoples dont have forcibly buy the Nvidia 400-500 series or AMD 5800-6900 series, and have jump on the 7xxx or 6xx series then.

    I still see around many peoples who are still on older series.
     
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  12. tsunami231

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    i have to agree I boought 670 ftw and while I loved the card it was complete over kill for almost all games i have or play, So I sent it back and will pick up 660ti at somepoint. PC Games and PC gpu are not on the same level. so buying that 500$ card is waste of money for alot people.

    It nice that AMD is get more of the share I guess, But i still refused to buy or own ATI/AMD
     
  13. Lane

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    Outside price, its not really as the 660TI and 670 are so much different ( the memory bus yes )...
     
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    Oh I guess I am not the only one who can play games without "super-high-ultra" settings :D
     
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    Imo my 470 is still overkill. I can run it close to 580 speeds and I'm not really a graphics whore. I like my AA, and that's it. At this rate it's going to be the longest lasting GPU I've ever owned.
     

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    My point was quite a few people on this forum said the 7970 was overpriced but didn't complain about the price of the gtx480 and gtx580.

    I agree the 7970 is an expensive card, however I think a bit of this is due to the high compute performance to make the card attractive to cad/maya users.

    Frost Bite 2 and Cryengine 3 are great modern engines, but most developers are still using outdated engines and relying on powerful hardware to run tacked on dx11.

    Quad core support should be a standard in modern games by now, but lots of games still don't use more than two cores. Developers need to invest in software that can tap in to the power of modern gpus (main stream, mid range and high end).

    @Lane

    My comment about of software catching up with hardware was a bit vague.
    I'm not just talking about better graphics, but better performance as well.

    Example - Crysis 2 has better graphics and performance than Crysis.
     
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    What are you playing that has such low requirements? There are plenty of recent games that benefit from a 670 or 680, especially if you use texture packs, anti-aliasing, and max out the eye candy. The last few games I played with my 680 were Metro 2033, Battlefield 3, and Mass Effect 3. All of which when running 2560x1600 with 4xAA + 4xSS, and some high resolution characters.... definitely get put to work. So much so that in Metro I had problems staying above 60fps in many areas.
     
  18. sykozis

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    Most people aren't running 2560x1600....most are at 1920x1080 and lower where cards like the GTX660Ti and HD7870 are sufficient.
     
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    I dont use 2560x1600 or let alone 4x AA with 4xSS. Alot people still use 1080p and 4x aa and are happy
     

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