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The ending was one of my favourite things, it shocked me, which is always a good thing when it comes to movies and games, as 99% of endings are predictable and unoriginal.

When it happened i thought well done Bioware for trying to be do something different, even though they must of known it would be unpopular, unfortunately they sold out and gave in with the new ending DLC
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Heres the sad thing: Theres a LOT of unused audio files that indicate there was a much larger ending planned at one point in time, which is one of the reasons its obvious the ending was significantly cut down late in development. True or not, the belief that happened is whats fueling fan outrage.

The ending as it is now is simply horrible.

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I really liked the ending of sacrificing my life to save the universe and become a true legend !!

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gamerk2 said: ↑

The ending as it is now is simply horrible.
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Couldn't agree more. Freakin' rainbow color choices.

Not to mention, after all the hardship, Shepard should be allowed to live in more than just the "destroy" ending (where EDI and the geth are unnecessarily wiped out). The series was NOT a tragedy, and Shepard was NOT written as a tragic character - he's always written as a legendary/victorious hero, and to change that all of a sudden is both poor literary writing and just...dumb. The world and life has enough suffering and pain - I want all my stories to have happy, uplifting endings. I need that, as do many others. I almost never like ANYTHING with an unhappy ending, especially where a good guy main character dies. Shepard deserves his vacation after doing nearly everything and saving the galaxy over and over. Effort and good deeds should always be rewarded.

Plus, he already died once. Killing him twice is stupid.

And my rant doesn't even mention the plot inconsistencies and randomness of the ending, with Joker and friends on that random planet, etc.

- PR-0927

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http://blog.bioware.com/2012/05/24/mass-effect-3-rebellion-pack/

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Nice. I'm all for free DLC.

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Enough with the MP stuff, BioWare! I want some single player stuff! But at least this is free...

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I hope they do a DLC from that one comic. Cant remember the name of it, but it's when Omega gets taken over by Cerberus.

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Nice. I'm all for free DLC.
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Yea free stuff is always great, but I too got bored of the MP, havent played for over a month. I hope for some SP DLC, free or payed just... giiiive! :nerd:

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Speaking of DLC.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/21/mass-effect-3-actors-return-to-the-studio-for-extended-cut-dlc/

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I just hope it's more than 2 minutes worth of cut scenes. I've known about that for quite some time (that voice actors were recording). I think Sbarge was the first to tweet about it.

Anarion, May 24, 2012

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Mass Effect 3 Writer Distance Himself From Game Ending, Blames Casey Hudson

BioWare writer Patrick Weekes is distancing himself from Mass Effect 3′s ending in wake of the massive scandal that’s rocked the franchise in recent days, making clear that he and other writers were literally ex-communicated when it came to writing the game’s ending, while executive producer Casey Hudson took charge, neglecting their many protests on how the trilogy should conclude.

The post was first written on Penny Arcade where Weekes is a frequent visitor known as user Takyris, but it was deleted and several other posts with quotes from the original post have been edited to steer clear of the controversial comments, however a screencap of Weekes’ comments was captured and sent to Gameranx by an anonymous source.

Here’s the entire text, unadulterated, giving great insight into what took place in the final days of Mass Effect 3′s development:

“I have nothing to do with the ending beyond a) having argued successfully a long time ago that we needed a chance to say goodbye to our squad, b) having argued successfully that Cortez shouldn’t automatically die in that shuttle crash, and c) having written Tali’s goodbye bit, as well as a couple of the holo-goodbyes for people I wrote (Mordin, Kasumi, Jack, etc).

No other writer did, either, except for our lead. This was entirely the work of our lead and Casey himself, sitting in a room and going through draft after draft.

And honestly, it kind of shows.

Every other mission in the game had to be held up to the rest of the writing team, and the writing team then picked it apart and made suggestions and pointed out the parts that made no sense. This mission? Casey and our lead deciding that they didn’t need to be peer-reviewe.d

And again, it shows.

If you’d asked me the themes of Mass Effect 3, I’d break them down as:

Galactic Alliances

Friends

Organics versus Synthetics

In my personal opinion, the first two got a perfunctory nod. We did get a goodbye to our friends, but it was in a scene that was divorced from the gameplay — a deliberate “nothing happens here” area with one turret thrown in for no reason I really understand, except possibly to obfuscate the “nothing happens here”-ness. The best missions in our game are the ones in which the gameplay and the narrative reinforce each other. The end of the Genophage campaign exemplifies that for me — every line of dialog is showing you both sides of the krogan, be they horrible brutes or proud warriors; the art shows both their bombed-out wasteland and the beautiful world they once had and could have again; the combat shows the terror of the Reapers as well as a blatant reminder of the rachni, which threatened the galaxy and had to be stopped by the krogan last time. Every line of code in that mission is on target with the overall message.

The endgame doesn’t have that. I wanted to see banshees attacking you, and then have asari gunships zoom in and blow them away. I wanted to see a wave of rachni ravagers come around a corner only to be met by a wall of krogan roaring a battle cry. Here’s the horror the Reapers inflicted upon each race, and here’s the army that you, Commander Shepard, made out of every race in the galaxy to fight them.

I personally thought that the Illusive Man conversation was about twice as long as it needed to be — something that I’ve been told in my peer reviews of my missions and made edits on, but again, this is a conversation no writer but the lead ever saw until it was already recorded. I did love Anderson’s goodbye.

For me, Anderson’s goodbye is where it ended. The stuff with the Catalyst just… You have to understand. Casey is really smart and really analytical. And the problem is that when he’s not checked, he will assume that other people are like him, and will really appreciate an almost completely unemotional intellectual ending. I didn’t hate it, but I didn’t love it.

And then, just to be a dick… what was SUPPOSED to happen was that, say you picked “Destroy the Reapers”. When you did that, the system was SUPPOSED to look at your score, and then you’d show a cutscene of Earth that was either:

a) Very high score: Earth obviously damaged, but woo victory

b) Medium score: Earth takes a bunch of damage from the Crucible activation. Like dropping a bomb on an already war-ravaged city. Uh, well, maybe not LIKE that as much as, uh, THAT.

c) Low score: Earth is a cinderblock, all life on it completely wiped out

I have NO IDEA why these different cutscenes aren’t in there. As far as I know, they were never cut. Maybe they were cut for budget reasons at the last minute. I don’t know. But holy crap, yeah, I can see how incredibly disappointing it’d be to hear of all the different ending possibilities and have it break down to “which color is stuff glowing?” Or maybe they ARE in, but they’re too subtle to really see obvious differences, and again, that’s… yeah.

Okay, that’s a lot to have written for something that’s gonna go away in an hour.

I still teared up at the ending myself, but really, I was tearing up for the quick flashbacks to old friends and the death of Anderson. I wasn’t tearing up over making a choice that, as it turned out, didn’t have enough cutscene differentiation on it.

And to be clear, I don’t even really wish Shepard had gotten a ride-off-into-sunset ending. I was honestly okay with Shepard sacrificing himself. I just expected it to be for something with more obvious differentiation, and a stronger tie to the core themes — all three of them.”

Thanks, Josh.
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http://www.gamesthirst.com/2012/03/...himself-from-game-ending-blames-casey-hudson/

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Mass Effect 3 Writer Distance Himself From Game Ending, Blames Casey Hudson

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2012/03/...himself-from-game-ending-blames-casey-hudson/
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Great read! Hopefully the improved ending will take into account such matters.

lucidus, May 25, 2012

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Yea free stuff is always great, but I too got bored of the MP, havent played for over a month. I hope for some SP DLC, free or payed just... giiiive! :nerd:
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I'm with you on the multi-player. IMO, it gets old pretty quick and just doesn't have any lasting appeal!

DSparil, May 26, 2012

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It seems like Bioware threw the 2 maps together, because they looks like sh!t. I guess we're getting what we paid for. Oh wait..... :nerd:

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Rumor: Mass Effect 3 DLC details leak out

New information about Mass Effect 3′s upcoming downloadable content has leaked out. The details come from a Reddit user who provided an accurate forecast regarding previous DLC.

The leak in full:

Mass Effect 3: Earth:

The fighting is fiercest when it’s your home at stake! Mass Effect 3™: Earth adds mods, gear, and new maps for Rio, Vancouver, and London. It features 3 new weapons: Piranha assault shotgun, Acolyte pistol, and Typhoon light machine gun. Six new human N7 classes are also available: Destroyer, Paladin, Demolisher, Slayer, Shadow, and Fury!

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut:

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard’s choices on the future of the galaxy.

Players can expect both DLC content to be made available this summer.
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Xzibit said: ↑

Rumor: Mass Effect 3 DLC details leak out

New information about Mass Effect 3′s upcoming downloadable content has leaked out. The details come from a Reddit user who provided an accurate forecast regarding previous DLC.

The leak in full:

Mass Effect 3: Earth:

The fighting is fiercest when it’s your home at stake! Mass Effect 3™: Earth adds mods, gear, and new maps for Rio, Vancouver, and London. It features 3 new weapons: Piranha assault shotgun, Acolyte pistol, and Typhoon light machine gun. Six new human N7 classes are also available: Destroyer, Paladin, Demolisher, Slayer, Shadow, and Fury!

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut:

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard’s choices on the future of the galaxy.

Players can expect both DLC content to be made available this summer.
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le gay. :nerd:

At least we're getting some more maps that are free.

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hmm lets see if they come soon, cause i just started my first ME3 Walkthrough and just made peace between the Geth and the Quarians, everything went better than expected

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I'm still on ME2 - 20hrs in so far...

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I'm still on ME2 - 20hrs in so far...
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how far are you right now? finished ME2 3 days ago and i needed 35h with all DLCs and about 3/4 Sidemissions completed.

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I just started ME 1 again......lol

Ran through ME 1 on the 360 when it came out, then the special edition of ME 2 came out on the PS3 with all the DLC on the disc, so i played that version and had to lose all my work on ME 1 on the 360......then they mess up the PS3 version of ME3 so now i'm back on ME1 on the 360 making my charactor to take through al three games again.

And you know what......i am enjoying it.........i missed a lot of stuff in ME 1 the first time round......picked up the 2 disc version of ME1.

Hopefully by the time i get round to ME3 there will be a GOTY edition. lol

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