560-448 Pointless??

So looking to upgrade this Christmas. Looking at new/more ram, new cooler, additional ssd and new gpu.

When the 448 was coming out I thought that would be a great little step up, but considering looking at the prices, is it a completely pointless card???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121480
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121432

Is there any point in choosing this over a 570???

 

get the 570 for 30$ more then general are unless you plan on OC the 448 seeing the 448 core is a completely failure price wise

 

Considering you can get an ECS GTX570 for $330....paying $330 for an Asus GTX560Ti 448 would be....for lack of a better term....completely stupid. For these cards to be anything but a failure, they'd have to be priced around $240-280USD....but, that'd leave them competing with the 384 core GTX560Ti....instead, they're competing with a faster card.

 

I wouldn't say there stupid...that particular 448 is stupid an overpriced when there are plenty to be had for like 80 dollars cheaper. If you were to buy one of those I would say go with what you need. But if your insisting on going for that over priced 448 and not the normal priced ones then yea not just getting the 570 seems dumb. But who knows....if it were me I would get the 570 over the 560 448 if money is no issue


edit: Nevermind...newegg is selling them all above MSRP...what a shame.

 

Reference GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores is 290$. Reference GTX 570 is 330$. Reference HD 6970 is 350$.

GTX 570 is slightly faster than HD 6970. GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores is equal to HD 6970.

'nuff said.

And as for the cards you're looking at, those are ASSUS... Their prices sometimes... Nvm...

GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores WindForce3X is 315$, GTX 570 WindForce3X is 345$. Difference is 30$, performance difference is <5%. Guess which one has better bang 4 buck.

 

I agree, the bencmarks posted on these forums on the front page, show the new GTX 560 Ti 448 at about the same fps as a GTX 570....which makes since as the card is basically a GTX 570.

The MSI GTX 570 twin frozn III is $369
The MSI GTX 560 Ti 448 twin frozn III is $309

 

Not quite right, the 570 is generally slightly slower than the hd 6970 in most games at higher resolutions, the 560ti 448 is slightly slower than the 570 by about 10% if you discount overclocked models and newer drivers, and about even to a hd 6950 (which was about 10% faster than the old 560ti at higher resolutions) at 1080p and above.

The new 560ti costs around $320-$330 and GTX 570's can be bought for prices starting at $289 and with better models at around the $340 range. Unless you want a particular gtx 560 ti 448 which is factrory overclocked or has a better cooler and the corresponding gtx 570 costs a lot more there is no reason to go for the 560 ti 448.

 

yes its slower at 2560x1600 reso.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306

at 1080p is usually on par, or faster esp. if its at 800mhz.

 

Yeah only faster because it runs out of vram

 

yeah, my point being that a 560 ti 448 is no where near as fast as a hd 6970, and no reason to buy a gtx 560 ti 448 over a gtx 570 at current prices. Also overclocking is subjective as I already mentioned in my first post, though the 570 does seem to get better better results when overclocked according to a lot of reviews as long as it stays within the vram limitations.

at 1680x1050 the 560 ti is as fast as the gtx 570, does that mean they are as good as eachother? or do you compare higher end cards at higher resolutions and settings and then decide which is the better card? I would think it's the latter.

 

Just responding to thehunters comment about 2560x1600 res

 

Lets look at EVERYTHING these cards can do.... In graphics, GTX560Ti 448 is slower than a GTX570. In GPGPU, the GTX560Ti 448 is slower than the GTX570. So, why pay as much or more for a GTX560Ti 448, than a faster GTX570? It makes absolutely no sense. If you play games that use PhysX, the GTX570 is faster. If you run F@H, the GTX570 is faster. Hell, if you game in general, the GTX570 is faster. The GTX560Ti 448 is pure fail....it's priced too high.

 

I agree it is priced too high. it is after all a gimped 570

 

GTX 560 Ti 448 is in between a HD 6970 and GTX 570 on BF3...

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-cores-review-4.html

It's a shame how ATi/AMD cards perform poor when MSAA is enabled.

For me it's difficult to run even 2XMSAA no matter what my other settings are at 1080p.

 

I'll say that pair of them you can run 1900x1080 ultra post aa high with 2xms no slowdowns min frames 70.
830/2150 2600k@ 4.5 smooth like butter no vram issues no slowdowns no sh!t.

dont forget the evga classy $300 and the card out of the box is faster then a 570.

 

You get 1 already cowie?

 

yeah you know me
i did not need them but i did not need 3 x580 or 2x570 or x3 560 ti's so now i have three of the 488's lol
i could flash them all to 810 stock clocks no voltage added if i wanted too.

$315 no tax msi tfIIoc from td

 

do they have a better pwm than the reference 570`s?

 

mine does tommy and the anus dcII does to,as matter of fact the evga classy 488 come on a 480 pcb even still has the 8+6 pin connectors.
that said $275-$285 for the better custom boards would be nice and more inline with the other cards in the nv line-up.

 

Wish I could grab up graphics cards like that....

For $275, I could probably talk my wife into it.....but not $300+...