iphone is becoming way too common for everybody, instead of its reduced-functions.. no memory card, not open source OS, crappy camera, "lemon"-type battery (easily low battery).. i prefer android based phone.. which i planned to get this June.. and android is getting better and better now.. the Froyo and the >50k apps in the store already.. besides other more positive points against iphone.. even Adobe is on the war against apple now..
I have mixed feelings, I own a Motorola Droid and my experience has been less than stellar. I mean besides the defects of the Droid hardware itself (****ty microphone jack, etc) Android is a bit buggy in its own regard, some bugs which have haven't been fixed since the launch of 2.0. Every now and then I go to my home screen and it's simply empty. Other times I get calls while listening to music and I can't hear the person on the other end of the call, or they can't hear me. I first attributed these bugs to my Droid's hardware/driver functionality, but I have two friends with two HTC Android phones that have the same issues. Another issue with Android and open source in general, is the fragmentation of the platform. I mean now you have Android running on multiple phones with totally different hardware and pretty soon it could even be on X86. This creates a problem with development and tbh it shows. My friend has an iphone and I can't find any games on my droid nearly as good as the ones available for his phone. After speaking to a few friends from my school who program for iphone/android/bb its pretty clear that the android userbase is already fragmented to the point where it's becoming annoying to develop for it. Whatever, I'm sure eventually as the userbase grows devs will be forced and development tools will only improve. Plus I probably want a evo 4g.
Honestly this doesnt surprise me that much. I think people may be starting to realize that apple isnt really giving you what you pay for. I mean, yay! We get to pay for apps instead of getting the exact same thing online! WOO-HOO!! (and you cant look at porn ). I dont really know prices, but I'd be the droid is cheaper than the iCrap. I mean, we all know battery life sucks, the screen sucks, the camera sucks, the list goes on and on and I can tell you that from first hand experience. Next apple product- iPatch
The not being able to hear people thing is a cell phone thing. Really, to a lesser extent, its a phone thing in general. Sometimes you just don't get the connection.
No, I know what a dropped call is, it's actually an Android problem and has apparently been properly documented (least according to the alldroid). When a call is not in place the microphone/speaker is powered off and there is a conflict with pausing the music and powering on the microphone/speaker. Tbh it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about. Apps cost money on Android and the iTunes store. The battery life of the iPhone 3GS is actually better than the Nexus One. The prices are the same. As for the screen, it's arguable. The 3GS is said to have a much better touch screen accuracy. The Nexus One has better image quality in doors, but out doors it's ridiculously washed out, where as the iPhone isn't. The camera is better on the Nexus One, but the new iPhone is supposed to fix that, along with multitouch and other things that are missing from the OS. Don't get me wrong, ATM I would definitely choose a Droid Inc/Nexus/Evo over an iphone, but to say that the iPhone is crap is seriously ridiculous. Android wouldn't even exist as it is today if it weren't for the first iPhone. Note: Obviously there are other phones besides the Nexus One, but I would argue that the Nexus One/Droid Incredible are the two top Android phones when it comes to overall performance/functionality/etc.
The HTC desire is argued to be better to the Iphone though- same as nexus one - the dual mics, but has an AMLED screen and a superior camera (5mp) compared to the iphone, and its about 1/2 of the price of the 3G on a contract. The app store isnt great yet, but its expanding and flash 10.1 is on the way
Half the price where? Everywhere I find pricing in the US it's going to be available (not until July which by then the new iPhone will probably be out anyway) for $199 with a contract $600 without, which is the same as the iPhone. I mean yeah it's a good phone and there are a lot of other good Android phones out and coming out, but I still don't see the iPhone as being ****, especially if the specs/OS capabilities of the new one are as seen with leaked devices/A4 processor. Tbh I just can't stand the constant Apple bashing on this forum, it's getting old and half the **** people say isn't even correct. We probably wouldn't even be discussing Android numbers if it wasn't for the iPhone. We'd be stuck with a newer version of the really bad Windows Mobile 6 or RIM/Palm who have sat on their horrible software for like years without innovating.
Well- In the UK i got my desire for £40 on a £20 a month contract for 24 months- then with casback it knocked the price for the whole contract making it around £16 a month including the phone (about £380 for the whole contract). For an iphone 3gs in the UK its either £442 for a pay as you go 3GS or £30 month with £179 for the phone- on a 18 month contract. = £719 around twice the price of my desire contract + I get 300 mins and texts, whilst the 02 one has 100 mins and unlimited texts (more inclined to use the mins) Im not saying the Iphone is rubbish (we would be stuck with windows mobile 6- which I have on a PDA and hate) - all i am saying is there are now better phones out there spec and software wise- Also the desire/ nexus one both have snapdragon 1ghz processor- roughly equivalent in power to the new A4 chip
A4 has been benchmarked to snapdragon, and has shown to be faster. But A4 uses more power than Snapdragon also, so that's why. Plus, 3g starts at $50 actually. Refurb 8gb 3g is $50, 8gb 3g is $99, 3gs 16gb is $199(cortex cpu same used in Pre and Droid) egs 32 gb $295. Honestly though, the Iphone is one of the most stable platforms I've used. The Iphone may not be as fast as what say the Nexus one is, or the Incredible, but it is very optimized. I look at it like this, I have both an original Iphone, and the Moment. The Moment uses Arm 11 at 800mhz, the original iphone uses I want to say arm4 or 6 at 424 mhz. The stock browser in the Iphone is smooth and fast, stock Android browser isn't. Youtube is the same way, Android on the Moment is....Okay, but not nearly as good as Iphone. Android is a very nice platform, but there is one big problem with it. Aside from the Droid, Nexus One, and Incredible, there are no Android phones that are optimized for the specific system. Hell, the Moment and the Hero both use Android 1.5 with a CDMA code. 1.5 doesn't support CDMA. Both of which are faster than the Iphone. The Iphone OS is solid, and very optimized. I just wish that it wasn't AT&T. Also, Moment battery life sucks. The Moment is solid proof that a lot of Android phones aren't optimized. There should be no reason I have such dragging with the Moment and it's hardware on Android 2.1. I guarantee, you give Apple the same hardware the Moment has, and they'll have a system running at 100% speed. The RIM part I can agree on, but not Palm. WebOS is amazing, and even better with 1.4. Smooth, solid, honestly works as great as the Iphone os does. Only problem with the Pre is the tiny screen.
You're right, WebOS is amazing. What I meant was, that they sat with their bad palm software until they were forced by competition to build WebOS.
You mean the iPad to phone comparison on Anandtech? Cause that's not comparing the chips, that's comparing platforms. We are comparing refurb prices to new prices now? Seriously?
Well the A4 is basically a snapdragon coupled with a PowerVR SGX core, so the A4 is definitely better - although the 45nm snapdragons are supposed to be more aggressively clocked + also contain the PowerVR core. But yeah, the Anand comparison also takes the software into account as well and honestly I think the browser on the iPhone is simply faster than the stock Droid one. As for pricing, the only thing I know is that if I wanted to switch to AT&T from Verzion here in the US and get an iPhone, it would be literally cost me the exact same I bought for my Motorola Droid, $199 + contract with AT&T with my plan (i dont remember specifics) would $79.99 a month on both carriers. AFAIC though, Verzion is simply a better carrier, which is why I own a Droid and not a iPhone.
The only thing that's actually "used" or left over in a refurbished iPhone is the motherboard, everything else is replaced AFAIK.
Interesting - I've rooted and am running Cyanogen 5.0.6.2 w/ JRummy's Remix v0.7 and Omnistar V2 theme with Bekit's 1200MHz Low-Voltage Kernel, and haven't had ANY of the problems that you've listed. I'm certainly not saying that they don't exist - perhaps you got a bunk phone to begin with, but what I AM saying, is that a rooted Droid is seriously fast, crystal clear (and believe me, I *use* my phone in my truck and car for the media) - as well as perfect calls, SMS, MMS, etc. Perhaps you should check into rooting and running a ROM that's better and more functional than 2.1?? I'd put my modded MotoDroid up against anything on the market that's stock, even the Snapdragon. Psychlone
I have to say I own the test subject for the market the G1 and thx to the modding community such as cynogen mod i could not be more happy with the android can't wait till I update to 2.1 and have some fun with that. I am also looking for a new droid if any one has some news of good deal pm me.
First tmobile showed of the g1 which struck pretty well. Verizon laid a crucial blow with the driod. And Sprint is about to just complete blow people out the water with the EVO 4g. Ill be purchasing that come June 4th. And who cares what processor the phone is using as long as the OS runs smoothly? Look at the Palm Pre/Pixi and half the andriod phones running 2.1 Also andriod phones are suppose to get a huge boost in performance with the next verzion of the operating system.
