RADEON HD 4850 possible for AGP?

Is the RADEON HD 4850 possible for AGP?

Pretty much what the thread titles says: do you think it's possible that some third-party manufacturer will release the HD 4850 or even the HD 4870 for AGP users at some point in the near future?

I've just bought the RADEON HD 3850 for use with my dual-core Athlon64 system and I'm delighted with it as it has given me a substantial and noticeable improvement over my previous GeForce 7800 GS+ card so it seems clear to me that there's still enough CPU juice there for these newer cards to use. Granted not as much as with newer quad-core CPUs but if the CPU was bottle-necked then I wouldn't have seen any change in my framerates at all, right?

Anyone know of any rumours or plans to release these cards for AGP or do you think the HD 3850 will be the last card released for this now dead standard?

 

Im affraid thats the last of its kind , i read it somewhere , if i find the article i will post it in here ok.

 

The 3850 is the last stand.

A good one at that.

 

Well I'm kind of relieved to hear that as I've only just bought my HD 3850 card and would have been gutted to learn one of the HD 4800 series was coming to AGP. I bought this card to stretch out the life of my PC until I finally move up to a PCI-e system sometime next year, likely summer.

 

A 4000 series would be nearly useless, believe me. Your chipset is extremely old and your CPU isnt strong too, which makes any 4000 series pretty ineffective. My chipset and even CPU is a lot stronger. A C2D at equal clock got around 30% more power or so and my powerful 975X chipset is a additional boost. However, the 4850 is truly the strongest card i could put in for still having a real gain.

 

4200+ is way too slow for a 4800 series, PCI-E or AGP. Trust me, I had one before my 6000+.

Also, AGP needs to die.

 

I think there wouldn't be enough space for molex connectors on the card if there was a 4800 AGP.

And yes, it needs to die.

 

Never, keep flogging away!

 

Pci-e 2.0 then budy

 

My CPU is about equal to a 5000+ in performance with current clock, but yeah, its a bit bottlenecking now.

 

Gotta get off the fossil setups guys.

 

ROFL said by the guy running windows XP

 

That's hardly fossil.

Games still run the exact same.

 

I still run all newer Games with full Details very smooth (except Crysis Warhead where I head to turn some down to Gamer).

But Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Dead Space, Call of Duty 5, Tomb Raider Underworld...they all run still great on our "fossil" Systems.
The HD3850 is still a Powerful Chipset and my CPU is overclocked equal to a AM2 5000+ CPU so our Systems can be still called "mid range" Systems but surely not fossil.

Not everyone uses a 24" LCD with 1650x1050 or higher. For me 1024x768 or 1280x1024 is enough and on those resolution the HD3850 AGP cards still rock the newest Games even with some AA.

 

same here have a Dual OpteronDP 248 CG with a MSI MS-9130 K8T master2-FAR mobo 2x 1GB PC-3200 ECC Reg CL2.5 from Kingston and a Sapphire HD 3850 AGP 512MB it runs everything @ max settings @ 1600 x 1200 x32 with FSAA x4 + AF x16 some games like Vampire The masquerade Bloodlines @ CFAA x24 + Af x16 no sweats.

here's my AGP Monster


It was a free gift from my dad heh and it replaced my aging ASUS X800XT PE AGP and it's doing alot better at everything including CoD4 & 5, Crysis Warhead @ mainstreams ettings as such anyways it's fast enought for the job as them OpteronDp 246 CG CPU's do very well too, no CPU bottle neck here.

HD 4850 AGP as for that why not, at least you'll et better FSAA + HDR + AF performance and that is always welcome.

And here it is in it's home


Later on I added a 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI Macintosh with PC Bios 1.18_LCD as secondary VGA

 

Yeah, ATI/Nvidia are not making anymore cards for AGP... And XP is far from Fossil... Ive got a copy of every OS (so far) and XP SP3 is still the best... Yeah DX10 in Vista/W7 but these days there are mods to get DX10 stuff in XP

 

Well XP + SP3 is perfect for that setup heh and yeah I know the DX10 hacks, to be true it's not DX10 but just some extra DX9.0c settings which are locked for Vista and above

As for Win 7 it's alot better than Vista as the rumors go it seems to be like Win2K/XP with the skin and support which Vista has so you get a hybrid OS, it seems to be a good move in the proper direction as speed and stability goes, but I since I'm no Beta OS guy I prefer to wait until the official one hit's the market and see how really good Win7 really is.

A beta doesn't say much of the official product, I do have one system with Vista Business 64 + SP1 never had any issues with it but as speed goes XP is alot faster for the casual DX9 games, for DX10 it's Vista Business 64 + SP1 for my doings, it has gotten alot better thanx to SP1 and all the updates that followed, but it remains a ram eater which has been fixed with Win7, so it all matter if the retail version can prove this as well.

Win2K + SP4 is best best MS OS ever made since it has no nonsense in it, even that XP SP3 is very solid 2K pro + SP4 is just a little better as stability and speed go, it is because it has no eye candy stuff in it, even with XP in the max performance settings 2K + SP4 is slightly faster, heck 2K Pro + SP4 is even nominated as the fastest OS for SSDs...
http://www.computerworld.com/action...xonomyId=89&articleId=9123140&intsrc=hm_topic

According to Far, Mac OS X runs "a little faster than Vista" with an SSD drive, but Linux is "always faster" than Vista or Mac OS X -- to the tune of 1% to 2% -- because like Windows 2000, "it never runs anything in the background."

Which is a true, but hard fact.

 

ehm...

Here is some fossillized benchmarks for you.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=267056

Obiwan Could you please clean up my desk.

Kudos for the win 2k comment... You are so right any other system blows.:biggun: whith all the addware.

(edit) Btw they think of releasing a hd4650/hd4670 on agp

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=289758

If its gonna be cheap... am gonna buy just to have gig whith it.

 

Hate to burst your bubble....but DX10 in XP is completely impossible. Yes, countless idiots have claimed to make it work, but it's been proven impossible. DX10 requires a WDDM1.x compliant driver....which is not available for XP, as WDDM didn't come into existance until Vista and MS has no interest in backward compatibility with XP for DX10 or 11(which requires a WDDM1.1 compliant driver). Anyone that's ever actually read the tech documents for DX10 knows they can't make it work without either porting portions of Vista to XP (which would cause massive compatibility/stability issues) or just outright butchering the DX10 source code. So, enough of the pointless babble of DX10 on XP.

For those that don't know(which on this forum should be very few)....WDDM means Windows Display Driver Model.