Would shorter wires lead to faster speeds

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  1. NN1T1NN

    NN1T1NN Master Guru

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    As i was rewiring my comp the other day to make it look cleaner i thought if instead of me taking this hdd sata connector and looping all around to hide what if the wire was simply made shorter. the question to ponder is that would a shorter cable from say the dvd drive or hdd cause faster transfer rates or would the difference be so minimalistic as to being unnoticable. An analogy would be shorter wires being the shortcut while snaking cables are the long way around, maybe this is a stufpid question but still something to ponder.
     
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    lol in theory it does but the difference would be not worth even researching about let alone talking about.
     
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    first of all, as a teacher i have to say, there are no stupid questions.

    First of all, let me start by saying , yes shorter wires DO lead to faster performance.
    but taking into account the conductivity of copper wiring and the length involved, its practically negligible. A sata wire can be 10 meters long, and as long as the signal gets through, the speed / throughput will be the same.

    But keep asking questions, and when all else fails, research it yourself.
    don't believe anyone.
    Not even me.
    Well, you can believe me , but always double check.
    Even me.
     

  5. NN1T1NN

    NN1T1NN Master Guru

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    yeah i know i was just pondering a bit, that never hurt anyone on a side note what is the optimal temperature for an hdd, and what is the max temp for an hdd.
     
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    well... this is actually an extremely good question.

    Consider a bus operating at say 3ghz, 3*10^9, the speed of light is roughly 3*10^8 m/s, and the speed of electricity approximates it If I recall correctly. This means that an electrical or optical high/low signal can propigate approximately 10 centimeters ( speed/hz ) in that time. Sooooo, to transfer more than 3GiB/s and have a distance of 10 centimeters to cover what do we need?



    eta: This may seem silly now as hard disks read to slow for it to matter much, but as things move to solid state it will become an issue.
     
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  7. NN1T1NN

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    i don't really understand that but oh well someone will, i am glad to see someone found something intriquing in this post.
     
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    The differences in speed are so minimal that you will barely notice, thus get whatever length cables you need.
     
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    I doubt the length matters much, all cables should follow the specifications (according to wiki 1m for internal and 2m for external). However this looping around you talk of might end up damaging the cable, so just for that i would get a shorter one (it's also less in the way then).
     
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    Well barely notice, that’s something !!
     

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    Lengths of wires matter for some things, like the link between the CPU and RAM, but it doesn't matter for the hard drive.

    Length of wires affects latency, and is only important to worry about in things that constantly get updated.
     
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    :)
    Holy cow, you think too much!
     
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    for hard drives the operating temps can vary.
    Go to your manufacturer site and look up your models specs. The temps should be there.
    As for cable looping, be aware that in some cases cable looping can lead to electromagnetic disturbances. I've seen it happen in super dense computers, and it might happen in pc's as well.
     
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    It does make a differnce but it is so tiny.
    There isnt way you can measure it in seconds or mili seconds.
     
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    Initially if your wires were say a mile long, then you shortened them, then I'd say you would notice the difference.
    Omg.
     

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