Nvida G92 (9800GTX/GTS) News

May not be a completely new design.
The Geforce 7 line is merely an improved Geforce 6 generation, not a complete breakaway.
Much in the same way a Geforce 4 Ti was basically just a Geforce 3 with two (instead of one) vertex shaders, higher clocks and full DX8.1 compliance.

 

But when you apply those AA/AF settings to a modern, programmable shaders-heavy game, the tables turn again.

 

Nope.
It's really not going to require any new cards.
It's strictly a software update.

 

but we are talking about a 8800 vs another 8800 and the one with less bits ( GT ) is beating one with more?

 

You guys are only talking about memory here. There are so many areas which improve performance. Dont forget the clock difference, 65nm...

The so called 2900xtx which was cancelled had 512bit which is better again but proved not much better than the xt

 

yeah i forgot it was 65nm... also i see big OC potential there..

I'll probably get 2 of these the release day and SLI them instead of getting a GTX if the preice is right ( $250 or less each card )

 

yeah i'm wondering how they are to SLI compared to a GTX ultra? any ideas

problem is under vista, how do we overclock since the latest updates prevents rivatunder from working...so i read anyway

 

the rivatunner problem is fixed now, it only happened with vista 64

 

I am thinking should I jump on a deal for a 8800gts oc for around 310 dollar right now or wait till end of month to see how 8800gt perform. The brenchmark for 8800gt look interesting but I am not sure if it can really wipe the floor with 8800gts 640mb and 2900xt.

 

You forgot to mention 768Mb

Seriously, the articles about the 8900 also mention that its competitor will likely come under the guise of an ATi release called 2800XTX. WTF? Now if that is not confusing... so the 2800XTX will be faster than the 2900 XT then, but not fast enough to be called 2900XTX or what? Or is it that ATi intends to have a 2900XTX run against the 8950 GT(insert appropriate letter here)? Shouldn't that be called 2950?

 

Don't you think the prices might come down a little bit after the new releases? That's kind of what I'm thinking, but then again, if these cards are not meant to be replacements, there might not be much price change.

 

I guess it all come out to if 8800gt can really wipe the floor with 2900xt and 8800gts. I got some real doubt since isn't 8800gt got less steam processor than 8800 gts? If it got less memory, less SP, less bandwidth, how could it be better?

 

thats what confuses me about the leaks. lesser bits lesser bandwidth same arch = something between 8600 gts << 8800 320

 

3dmark scores of ultra gtx and the 2900 xt gts 640(odec) are similar but does the performance scale acc to that? 2900 score more than the gtx/ultra sometimes but
real perf: ultra/gtx > gts 640 > gts 320 > 2900 xt (yeah 320 beating the xt in most) so am i surprised about the perf expectations from 256 bit arch? 3dmark makes little sense though but not all, can't be relied upon AT ALL.

 

It is not the 3D mark that worry me. It is the supposed game brench that freak me out. http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools

Is there any logically reason for something that is suppose to be inferior in spec to be better? And being new doesn't really count.

 

maybe it isnt the same architecture as the GTS/GTX?

 

new doesn't count alright, ati has set quite an example in its series, pun intended:bash:

 

uh, no, i tried it today and it still wont install the driver cause its not signed. then when i rebooted something with either the nvidia driver or what rivatuner did to it caused a BSOD after bootup.

i dont think rivatuner's creator will ever pay to get the signed driver for 64bit, so i'm SOL there.

isnt there any other way to OC in vista64?

 

I'm using Ntune to OC my GTS. Thus far it's the only OCing utility I can find that will work with my Vista 64.

Just don't try to use any of the other OCing gadgets that come with Ntune because they will cause your system to freeze up.

 

i think it is fixed, riva worked fine with me while using vista 64 last week when i had my pc