3DS MAX 9 performance in D3D - ATI x nV ?

Hello,

I really want know which graphic card would be better in 3ds max 9 in D3D mode. My chooses are:
nV based: Leadtek WinFast PX7950GT Extreme - G71
ATI based: ASUS EAX1950XT - R580

So are there any users of ATI and nV, that can give me some results from this?
bmark4.rar

Thanks

 

and also 8800GTS. THX

 

Test

So I have tested some cards that we have in office. Could you please someone test any Geforce 7?

 

@Vykupitel

Please check this:
http://www.dizajnzona.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23832

 

i dont get it. is this frames per seconds int those fields? on what resolution you have tested those cards? havent you used maxtreme for max9?

 

Re

Yes, these are FPS. Everything is in 1280x1024 (native LCD resolution) and in D3D mode. Without Maxtreme because it won't works in 64-bit version of 3ds max 9.

 

Which card is Quadro FX 4000 based on? Geforce 6 or 7?

BTW X1900GT is really good, is 3d Max optimized for ATI cards?

 

Quadro FX 4000 = 6800GT/Ultra AGP with 375Mhz GPU clock and 1000 memory clock.

Max is not optimized towards any card - it just happens that ATI cards kick a$$ in D3D while NVIDIA seems to inflate SpecViewPerf OpenGL scores by cheating...

 

Thanks for the info

However, I still like NV more.

 

Here are the results from my QX6700 / 8800 GTX system. These are run at my LCD's native res of 1920x1200 using 3DSMax 8. As you can see, D3D appears much faster.

=================================================
Video Card: eVGA 8800GTX
Display Typeirect3D
File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 82.0345
8direct.MAX | 607.903
8omni.MAX | 581.395
8spot.MAX | 533.333
blitting.MAX | 1049.32
dualplanes.MAX | 953.895
geometry1.MAX | 426.743
geometry2.MAX | 263.158
multitex.MAX | 80.0
rasterize.MAX | 640.205
textured1.MAX | 521.558
textured2.MAX | 176.6
textured3.MAX | 198.807
transpar.MAX | 326.797
wireframe1.MAX | 19.2185
wireframe2.MAX | 15.7505

Comp High: 204.548
Comp Low: 238.807
=================================================
Video Card: eVGA 8800GTX
Display Type:OpenGL
File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 29.9043
8direct.MAX | 50.9944
8omni.MAX | 51.2033
8spot.MAX | 50.9944
blitting.MAX | 695.571
dualplanes.MAX | 839.161
geometry1.MAX | 8.40242
geometry2.MAX | 6.90147
multitex.MAX | 76.1615
rasterize.MAX | 77.5735
textured1.MAX | 1170.05
textured2.MAX | 124.883
textured3.MAX | 183.891
transpar.MAX | 45.9812
wireframe1.MAX | 12.4275
wireframe2.MAX | 10.202

Comp High: 35.4016
Comp Low: 109.19

 

hi

Here are the results from my 6600 DUO 2 / X1950XTX 512 3DSMAX 9

D3D TEST

=================================================
Video Card: x1950xtx
Display Type:
File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 63.9795
8direct.MAX | 441.501
8omni.MAX | 320.0
8spot.MAX | 291.121
blitting.MAX | 979.752
dualplanes.MAX | 1003.76
geometry1.MAX | 309.598
geometry2.MAX | 174.622
multitex.MAX | 1.98141
rasterize.MAX | 467.29
textured1.MAX | 279.018
textured2.MAX | 137.599
textured3.MAX | 154.607
transpar.MAX | 200.0
wireframe1.MAX | 16.3399
wireframe2.MAX | 16.1621

Comp High: 135.973
Comp Low: 135.724
=================================================

OPEN GL TEST

=================================================
Video Card: x1950xtx gl
Display Type:
File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 53.3333
8direct.MAX | 346.021
8omni.MAX | 327.869
8spot.MAX | 291.121
blitting.MAX | 355.534
dualplanes.MAX | 441.42
geometry1.MAX | 15.2866
geometry2.MAX | 13.5208
multitex.MAX | 1.59162
rasterize.MAX | 383.142
textured1.MAX | 686.185
textured2.MAX | 70.7214
textured3.MAX | 181.818
transpar.MAX | 55.7538
wireframe1.MAX | 17.8105
wireframe2.MAX | 15.4591

Comp High: 57.5875
Comp Low: 111.886
=================================================

See the lines with the red color its strange ,may be do to the fact that i don’t have the 3dsmax4 map coz it kept asking me about missing maps
during the test.

Can some one tell me what went wrong?

and by the way its my first post:bigsmile:

 

here are my results - i managed to get almost ALL missing Maps by the way (substituted one) - so i think the ersults are not influenced by this....

Note 1:
First column Max9 D3D, second Max9 Maxtreme D3D, and third column (best results... Max 8 with Maxtreme (OGL), as you can see Maxtreme is STILL better than D3D - at least for me....

Note 2:
To get REAL good wireframe performance in Max9 D3D ITS CRUCIAL TO DISABLE BACKFACECULLING ON THE OBJECTS. This benchmark scenes have BF enabled, so the wireframetests can be FASTER in Max9 D3D by
about factor 10 (just a guess) - this could easy be checked by loading the wireframe scenes selecting all objects and diabel BF in the properties dialog)

Code:

[FONT="Fixedsys"]]==========================================================================================    
Video Card: MSI 6800GT -> Softquadro FX4000 | Geforce Driver Version: 97.44
Resolution 1280*1024, 

Display Type:               D3D       Maxtreme     Max8 Maxtreme (OGL) (Speed preset)
                                      D3D       
File Name           |       FPS       FPS      |   FPS
================================================================    
4viewports.MAX      |       125.471   142.248  |   228.311         
8direct.MAX         |       291.121   224.719  |   312.012         
8omni.MAX           |       203.252   216.92   |   213.447             
8spot.MAX           |       168.35    177.778  |   213.22              
blitting.MAX        |       483.637   500.0    |   872.854         
dualplanes.MAX      |       328.947   566.706  |   862.689         
geometry1.MAX       |       210.97    161.377  |   174.52              
geometry2.MAX       |       122.299   100.0    |   39.5049             
multitex.MAX        |       3.8301    0.94534  |   377.359             
rasterize.MAX       |       331.675   328.192  |   441.306             
textured1.MAX       |       287.466   335.57   |   420.875             
textured2.MAX       |       105.374   122.474  |   79.5071             
textured3.MAX       |       134.445   136.761  |   97.2763             
transpar.MAX        |       200.0     179.727  |   53.5217             
wireframe1.MAX      |       13.6271   18.9922  |   59.0784         
wireframe2.MAX      |       13.1148   17.9276  |   30.4754         
                                                                                              
Comp High:                  107.382   106.015      141.864                               
Comp Low:                   120.238   118.911      189.6     [/FONT]

so im happy with my maxtreme results ;-)

 

Max 8 with Maxtreme (OGL) what is it mean?

 

maxtreme is a special nvidia driver for 3DSMax - for nvidias professional
workstation cards (Quadro). Up to Maxtreme for Max 8 it worked in an enhanced OpenGL mode - hence the "(OGL)", with Max 9 they started to use Direct3D for Maxtreme too - this sucks IMHO

http://www.nvidia.com/object/maxtreme_archive.html

 

=================================================
Video Card: 8800GTS 640MB
Display Type:
File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 100.0
8direct.MAX | 456.621
8omni.MAX | 457.666
8spot.MAX | 426.439
blitting.MAX | 605.693
dualplanes.MAX | 673.59
geometry1.MAX | 295.276
geometry2.MAX | 164.114
multitex.MAX | 2.79353
rasterize.MAX | 429.553
textured1.MAX | 309.661
textured2.MAX | 113.766
textured3.MAX | 136.166
transpar.MAX | 213.311
wireframe1.MAX | 126.316
wireframe2.MAX | 65.09

Comp High: 194.205
Comp Low: 163.132

 

@Bluefire

MAX 8 or 9?
Which driver version?
9x.xx or 100.xx?
1280x960 or some biger res?

 

Re

ATI Radeon 1950XTX,A64 5000+,4GB RAM:

Code:

=================================================
Video Card: ATI Radeon 1950XTX
Display Type:
File Name		|		FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX		|		125.471
8direct.MAX		|		426.439
8omni.MAX		|		320.0
8spot.MAX		|		284.495
blitting.MAX		|		650.759
dualplanes.MAX		|		808.353
geometry1.MAX		|		242.915
geometry2.MAX		|		141.176
multitex.MAX		|		0.211811
rasterize.MAX		|		400.0
textured1.MAX		|		246.144
textured2.MAX		|		129.282
textured3.MAX		|		175.809
transpar.MAX		|		192.753
wireframe1.MAX		|		16.5801
wireframe2.MAX		|		15.894

Comp High: 122.005
Comp Low: 117.629

 

My above score was @1280x1024 and an Athlon X2@2650mhz....D3D Display all triangles Enabled! Driver version 100.87 and 3D Studio Max 9.

And now my brand new scores with a E6300@3.2Ghz and my VGA not overclocked :cops:

=================================================
Video Card: Core2@3200_stock8800GTS 640MB
Display Type:1280x1024

D3D Setting: !!!DISPLAY ALL TRIANGLES!!!


File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 123.153
8direct.MAX | 641.026
8omni.MAX | 581.395
8spot.MAX | 511.509
blitting.MAX | 1109.88
dualplanes.MAX | 1137.98
geometry1.MAX | 426.743
geometry2.MAX | 255.973
multitex.MAX | 7.12708
rasterize.MAX | 633.312
textured1.MAX | 479.846
textured2.MAX | 158.04
textured3.MAX | 203.832
transpar.MAX | 313.676
wireframe1.MAX | 122.249
wireframe2.MAX | 65.09

Comp High: 264.099
Comp Low: 236.871

And now with disabled setting in D3D (Display all Triangles):

=================================================
Video Card: Core2@3200_stock8800GTS 640MB
Display Type:1280x1024

D3D Setting: !!!DISPLAY ALL TRIANGLES DEACTIVATED!!!


File Name | FPS
=================================================
4viewports.MAX | 85.3242
8direct.MAX | 641.026
8omni.MAX | 555.556
8spot.MAX | 533.333
blitting.MAX | 1116.07
dualplanes.MAX | 1137.44
geometry1.MAX | 436.681
geometry2.MAX | 255.973
multitex.MAX | 7.70119
rasterize.MAX | 633.714
textured1.MAX | 479.846
textured2.MAX | 157.048
textured3.MAX | 206.441
transpar.MAX | 320.102
wireframe1.MAX | 24.6144
wireframe2.MAX | 23.5868

Comp High: 202.83
Comp Low: 206.061

 

future belongs to 8800GTX, definitly.

 

ATI Radeon 2900XT

It was on X2 6000+, 4GB RAM, WinXP 64-bit and MAX9 64-bit in D3D

4viewports.MAX | 66.5779
8direct.MAX | 638.978
8omni.MAX | 673.401
8spot.MAX | 638.978
blitting.MAX | 908.815
dualplanes.MAX | 829.302
geometry1.MAX | 479.233
geometry2.MAX | 242.718
multitex.MAX | 0.258894
rasterize.MAX | 554.324
textured1.MAX | 289.799
textured2.MAX | 151.745
textured3.MAX | 208.333
transpar.MAX | 256.937
wireframe1.MAX | 21.3645
wireframe2.MAX | 20.5606

Comp High: 170.488
Comp Low: 142.374