GeForce 6 series capable of using Transparent AA!!!

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by RejZoR, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. blue5

    blue5 Banned

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    Ha,ha thats a funny pic. ^_^

    But seriously the marketing blitz with the 7 series tried to undercut the 6 series. I think the blundering with the 6800gs agp drivers as i have reported in the past proves this.

    I'm like tired as hell, but before i go, are there benchmarks? What we need is a system running 6 and 7 cards of similar "stature" e.g. ultra and gtx. both running with the TAA methods and if possible TAA methods with various 6 series cards and from these benchmarks we will unravel the truth.

    Once we have scores, we can figure out if its conspiracy, because seriously ATI is giving us a run for the money and we need to know what else nvidia is or may be hiding.

    On an off topic: I'm very afraid that the power requirements on current and possible dx10 cards is getting excessive. We need to confront nvidia because a 1200 watt psu would kill my electric bill, horribly.
     
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  2. kwak

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    question posted. good work nforced, lets hope it makes a difference.
     
  3. nforced4good

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    lets force nvidia to set things right!
     
  4. borizb

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    I don't mean to stop you, but there is a possibility Nvidia did all this on purpose
    for now they're being able to sell their "old" top notch AGP cards a little better
    with this news spreading among freaks like us who are now in t he coice
    upgrading the old AGP system or a total conversion to PCI E. Call me paranoid,
    but I think NV nows damn well what they're doing. Let's not do something
    rash. These news will be in the computer magazines soon, so they need to
    give some good answers. Maybe they're even working on it as we write here.
    Who knows?
     

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    AGP systems can be upgraded even with 7600GS. For this card there is a support for TSAA in every forceware.

    I would be more optimistic if this feature is found in universal forceware. Not only in 7950GX2 specific release.
    This thread has been viewed approx. 10k times, but we are still microscopic part of their customers, to make a difference.
     
  6. kwak

    kwak Ancient Guru

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    it would be good if we spread this to other forums as well to get the word out.
     
  7. RejZoR

    RejZoR Ancient Guru

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    Well i've posted my findings on Guru3D, Beyond3D and NVNews. I've also posted it on Flexbeta as comment for ForceWare 91.45 news.
    If you know any others, feel free to spread the word :)
     
  8. kwak

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    i posted on some belgian game forums, but it seemed that absolutely nobody there could care less.
     
  9. Shin_Mike_God

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    hmm what about www.petitiononline.com ? and i use SS on my 6800gs and i dont notice a big impact in the performance, so why hide it... the games looks better now :)
     
  10. Theliel

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    :) you are right. I sure Nvidia have a very good answer for all this. I dont believe that only reasson because nvidia disable TAA in serie 6 was marketing. time to time. I sure Nvidia give us a good reasson for all
     

  11. RejZoR

    RejZoR Ancient Guru

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    Even if it works on older cards, speed factor will always win in the end.
    Even my 6600GT won't be able to keep up the pace forever with TrAA enabled. Sure it works in HL2 and CS:S and all older games but what about future ones? In most of them i don't even use any form of FSAA, let alone Transparency AA. So saying people will start buying GF6 series just because of this more than GF7 is plain stupid. If people simply can't afford 7600GS or GT they just pick 6600GT. It's not like Radeons 9500/9600/9700/9800 startd selling liek nuts when ATi unveiled Adaptive AA. x800 cards were still selling more, but those (me too) that had Radeons from those series were more than happy with new gadget. I know i had to try Adaptive AA even if the game was running at 10fps in the end on R9600 Pro.
     
  12. Copey

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    i think this is very sneaky by nvidia , the marketed the 7 series with only them being able to do Transparency AA , this really annoys me , the should be punished
     
  13. polka

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    what performance hit? i get 3 fps more on 4xaa+supersampling than i do with it off.

    2xaa - multisample
    http://www.patterndancer.btinternet.co.uk/screenshots/2xaa_multisample.jpg
    2xaa - supersample
    http://www.patterndancer.btinternet.co.uk/screenshots/2xaa_supersample.jpg
    2xaa - taa off
    http://www.patterndancer.btinternet.co.uk/screenshots/2xaa_taaoff.jpg
    4xaa - supersample
    http://www.patterndancer.btinternet.co.uk/screenshots/4xaa_supersample.jpg

    i think having the knife out on the screeny might have something to do with it though ;)

    seriously though, on a low rez like 800x600, what i play cs-source on, there isnt any performance hit.
    so im happy with using it.
     
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    It's the slowest 7k series card and you name it
    "upgrade" :D I got the point, don't worry, but so much can i tell ya - there
    will hardly be support for your request in germany for example, my countrymen
    don't seem to give a damn about it. I'm in if you want to do some with
    petition online or some like that, but i think just going to Nvidia and saying:
    "Jo David Kirk ma man, get the dang TS/TMAA into default Forceware so it's
    available on my 6k series card" won't get anyone anywhere. This all will not
    be achieved by raw force, let's come up with some more effective plan, right?

    besides:
    lol, don't get me wrong, but you
    could surely enable 16x AF and 8x AA and even then you wouldn't notice a
    big fps drop. TSAA is for players wo are not satisfied with 1280x1024 and
    simple 4x AA. Maybe you try some higher res and post again please.

    I tried Aquamark with settings at 1024x768@ 4x TSSAA / 8x AF and did not
    notice a drop worse than about 1000-2000 Points which is nearly nuffn.
     
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    tsaa is for players who are not satisfied with aliasing on certain objects that normal aa doesnt work on, regardless of resolution.
    in fact, people on lower resolutions would benefit more than on higher resolutions.

    but yeah, i know what you mean.
     

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    wrong

    petitiononline does **** all.

    mass posting on thier support forum. they will listen to.
     
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    im using this driver now, not much of an improvement from 91.37 as i have experienced but i like the SSAA...
     
  18. TerracideDK

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    Was Gamma Corrected AA also enabled on the 6x00 series?

    Terra...
     
  19. nforced4good

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    gamma aa can be used on geforce 6 for ages.

    i think you have to select 8xS gamma though in nhancer
     
  20. SweetXD

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    well its the marketing machine that works here !
    its it's always best to switch to the 7 series.
     

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