wow this thread is turning into a very good discussion of corrections and such and its good to see some people know alot of this stuff and so far no heated arguements have occured.
Jews/Israel Massacres against the Palestinian Nation In order to push the unarmed defenseless Palestinian Arabs to leave their homes. Jewish terrorist groups such as Irgun Zwei Leumi were brought in when other methods failed. On 9th April 1948, the Irgun Zwei Leumi led by Menachem Beigin, a former Israeli Cabinet Minister and former leader of the Opposition in the Israeli Parliament, attacked the small Arab village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem. An account of this barbaric massacre was given by Jacques de Reynier, the Chief Delegate of the International Red Cross , who was able to reach the village and witness the aftermath of the massacre: "Three hundred persons" he said, "were massacred ... without any military reason or provocation of any kind; old men women, children, newly-born were savagely murdered with grenades and knives by Jewish troops of the Irgun, entirely under the control of their chiefs." The objective behind the Deir Yassin massacre was to terrify the Arab civilian population, and force them to flee to secure for the Zionists the land without the people. The plan succeeded and they fled in terror, to save their lives. Before May 15th, 1948, while the British Government was still responsible, the Jews had occupied many purely Arab cities like Jaffa and Acre and scores of villages that were in the territory assigned by the U.N. Resolution for the Arab State and evicted more than 300,000 inhabitants from their homes. In an attempt to stem this tide, the neighboring Arab states sent their armies on 15th May 1948 into Palestine. On 15th July 1948 the U.N. imposed a final truce between Israel and the Arabs, by which time Israel had occupied an even larger part of the territory allotted to the Arab State in Palestine. Palestinian terrorized by massacres Place / Village Date Crime made by Number of Killed Baldat al-Shaikh 31.01.1947 Jews Groups 60 Mansurat al Khayt 18.01.1948 Jews Groups NA Sa'Sa'a Village 14.02.1948 Jews Groups NA Qisarya 15.02.1948 Jews Groups NA Wadi 'Ara 27.02.1948 Jews Groups NA Abu Kabeer Village 31.03.1948 Haganah NA Dair Yasin 10.04.1948 Irgun 254 Nasir ad Din, Khirbet 12.04.1948 Jews Groups NA Hawsha 15.04.1948 Jews Groups NA Al Wa'ra Al-Sawda 18.04.1948 Jews Groups NA Haifa 21.04.1948 Jews Groups NA Husayniyya 21.04.1948 Jews Groups NA Ayn az Zaytun 02.05.1948 Jews Groups NA Bayt Daras 11.05.1948 Jews Groups NA Burayr 12.05.1948 Jews Groups NA Khubbayza 12.05.1948 Jews Groups NA Abu Shusha 14.05.1948 Jofati Army 50 Al Kibri 21.05.1948 Jews Groups NA Al Tantoura 21.05.1948 Jews Groups NA Qazaza 09.07.1948 Jews Groups NA Lydda 10.07.1948 Jews Groups NA El-Led 11.07.1948 Mohsa Dayan 426 Al Tira 16.07.1948 Jews Groups NA Ijzim 24.07.1948 Jews Groups NA Beer Sheba 21.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Isdud 28.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Al Dawayima 29.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Jish 29.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Majd al Kurum 29.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Safsaf 29.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Sa'sa 30.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Saliha 30.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Arab al Samniyya 30.10.1948 Jews Groups NA Aylabon Village 30.10.1948 Israeli Army NA Al-Ba'na / Dair Al-Asad 31.10.1948 Israeli Army NA Al Khisas 18.12.1948 Jews Groups NA Qibya 14.10.1953 Israeli Army 67 Qalqalya Village 10.10.1956 Israeli Army 70 Kufr Qasim 29.10.1956 Israeli Army 49 Khan Younes 03.11.1956 Israeli Army 250 Khan Younes 12.11.1956 Israeli Army 275 Sabra & Shatila Camps 16.09.1982 Isr. Army/Kata'ib 3500 Oyon Qara 20.05.1990 Israeli Army 7 Al-Aqsa Mosque 08.10.1990 Israeli Army 23 Ebrahime Mosque 25.02.1994 Baruch Goldstein 53 Qana 18.04.1996 Israeli Army 109
Holocaust Fact and Fiction Copyright 1997 (c) by J.S. Chiappalone ________________________________________ Every day, in every aspect of the media, you will be reminded of the holocaust of World War II and the damage it did to one group of people. You are supposed to feel guilty and excuse away anything these people, who are portrayed as the only victims, now do to society. You are not to mention others, such as the Poles, Russians and Gypsies who suffered equally if not more, for that would detract from the lie with which the rest of humanity is being burdened. Sure, terribly evil things happen in war, but it is even more terrible to allow lies to be embellished and used to promote guilt, misunderstanding, blackmail and more evil. Sooner or later, there will be a worldwide confrontation arising from this deceit, and the liars will come off second best. It is for this reason I have reproduced a section of one of our books here: ________________________________________ Alan Dershowitz believes that all American Jews should think of themselves as victims of the Holocaust; his rationale is that they were ultimately targets of the Holocaust. But, the Holocaust is even bigger than that to the Zionists; they want everyone to believe that all wrong is done to the Jews, and no wrong is done by the Jews. And, there is a reason for this. Robert Faurisson observes, "Elie Wiesel won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He is generally accepted as a witness to the Jewish `Holocaust,' and, more specifically, as a witness to the legendary ***** extermination gas chambers...." But in what respect is Elie Wiesel a witness to the alleged gas chambers? By what right does he ask us to believe in that means of extermination? In an autobiographical book that supposedly describes his experiences at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, he nowhere mentions the gas chambers. He does indeed say that the Germans executed Jews, but ... by fire; by throwing them alive into flaming ditches, before the very eyes of the deportees! No less than that! Here Wiesel the false witness had some bad luck. Forced to choose from among several Allied war propaganda lies, he chose to defend the fire lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or electrocution lies. In 1956, when he published his testimony in Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain circles. This lie is the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas remains. * The gassing lie was spread by the Americans. * The lie that Jews were killed by boiling water or steam (specifically at Treblinka) was spread by the Poles. * The electrocution lie was spread by the Soviets". Yes, these are all Holocaust lies. "The fire lie is of undetermined origin. It is in a sense as old as war propaganda or hate propaganda, just like the false assertion of human (Jewish) skin being used to make lamp shades. In his memoir, Night, which is a version of his earlier Yiddish testimony, Wiesel reports that at Auschwitz there was one flaming ditch for the adults and another one for babies. He writes: `Not far from us, flames were leaping from a ditch, gigantic flames. They were burning something. A lorry drew up at the pit and delivered its load – little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it – saw it with my own eyes ... those children in the flames.'" None of this ever happened. And, yet, such lies have earned Wiesel the Nobel Peace Prize, and made it "anti-Semitic" and even illegal to simply tell the truth about the Holocaust. Why have lies superseded truth? And, more specifically, who benefits from the lie? As we have observed, every lie in the evil Zionist-controlled system is designed to exploit; every lie keeps Yahweh's system of evil securely in place. In this world, everything of value is offered up to Yahweh by the Zionists, as a "burnt offering". "Holocaust" means burnt offering; it is the perpetuation of the illusion and the elevation of the lie to the level of supreme truth, religiously. The fact is, the Holocaust is about money, legitimacy for Israel, and the total denial of any moral failings (or evilness) in the Jewish people. Jews are outraged when it is mentioned that many gypsies and Russians suffered the same fate as Jews, because to compare a sub-human to a Jew is unspeakable. The Jewish scripture declares that the life of a Jew is the most priceless thing to "god" and the life of a non-Jew or "goy" is worthless. The Jews have a history of crying "holocaust". The Talmud cites examples of many billions of Jews being killed (including children being burned). Needless to say, there have never been that many Jews on the face of the earth. The same falsification and embellishment is true with regard to the "holocaust" of World War II. Many Jews died, but not the six million that is claimed. Perhaps a million died, none from gas chambers. Red Cross documentation which Jewish controllers refuse to release, is suspected of suggesting that some 100,000 were lost. As historian David Irving and many others have rightly observed, there never were gas chambers at the concentration camps. And, it would have been impossible for the Germans to have gassed and then burned 12,000 Jews every day. Reports by concentration camp survivors that tell of the guards going into "gas chambers" as soon as one batch of Jews had been killed, clearing out the bodies, and then filling the room again are patently false – the guards (none of whom was reported to have worn a mask) would have instantly died, since cyanide does not dissipate or disappear in a few minutes. Also, there would have been bones and ashes to show, with cyanide residue. None of this is found. Even the Auschwitz Memorial which once stated that six million Jews had died now states that perhaps a million died. The plaque has been altered from six to one million. That being said, even a million dead people is a lot. The degree of suffering they experienced, and the treatment they received from hateful, evil Nazis was a fact. Yet, that does not excuse all of the evils and wrongs committed by the victors, who fire-bombed civilian populations in Germany and Japan, and dropped atomic bombs on cities in Japan, before ending the war. The intentional massacring of millions of civilians by the Allied victors was certainly a war crime, and perhaps of larger impact than what happened to the Jews. War is a terrible thing, and though it is an unwritten and unspoken policy, civilian populations are targeted and slaughtered in the worst way, to weaken the morale of the opposition. War is not just fought by soldier against soldier, with some kind of boundary against civilians. Yet, it is always the victors who write the history; they are always in the right, and the losers are always in the wrong. War is not black and white, truth is its first casualty, and what is written in history and in the news has little correlation with the truth. Jewish bankers funded the Nazis, and the Zionists fiercely pressured Western nations to keep Jews from being able to leave Germany before the war began. For perverse political and economic reasons, the Zionists did not want the Jews to go to free nations, but rather had the single-minded objective of claiming Palestine as the Jewish state. Because they could not force the creation of Israel before the war, they readily sacrificed the lives of their "lesser brethren" for the "greater cause": Israel. There are many people who hold that all major wars in the last few centuries have been instigated by, funded by, and profited by, the Zionist international bankers. * First, they instigate wars. * Then, during the war, they loan huge sums of money, and make enormous profits in their military-industrial production. * After the war, they buy up property and industry at pennies on the dollar in the loser nations. This policy of economic conquest is not only a factor in war; it is how the everyday economy operates, worldwide, today. * The Zionists control the economies, governments, and agreements/conflicts between major nations. * They control the daily economy, inflation, and deflation. * They engaged in economic war in creating the Great Depression in the US, in which they obtained vast amounts of property and business by foreclosing on mortgages and debt. * And, they have plundered the resources of Third World nations, via the issuance of debt (loans) which cannot be paid back due to usurious interest rates. We need to understand that nothing in this world "just happens", especially not global events. Everything has a reason and a purpose behind it. There are forces that control all that happens in this world, and there is an unseen "shadow government". It uses the masses or "sheep" as cannon fodder during war, and to gain sympathy and financial aid. We are told that we cannot forget the Holocaust, though we dismiss all other genocide that has occurred to all other racial groups throughout history. Why is that? * Why is there no motto to remember the millions of Native Americans slaughtered by white settlers; * why is there no public relations action to memorialize the millions of Africans who were slaughtered in the slave business; * why is there no mention of the millions of Cambodians – nearly half their population – who were slaughtered by Pol Pot; or the twenty million Russians killed in World War II? * Why is it that what happens to these other groups doesn't seem to matter? For the answer, we need to only look to Jewish propaganda and scriptural dogma: the life of a Jew matters, only a Jew is a human being; the non-Jews do not matter, their lives are worthless. The media are controlled by the Zionists, and because most of them are Jewish they are greatly invested in the story of the Jews. They readily promote fiction over fact, the lie over the truth in all other areas, so why not in this area – in which they have such strong emotional and financial interest? Contradicting the Holocaust lies is illegal in some countries (called an act of racial hatred and vilification, defaming the dead, and anti-Semitism). The media quickly label any less than glorifying truth about the Jews as anti-Semitism. And, this, more than anything, has given the evil Zionists the greatest cover and freedom from public scrutiny. They are able to go about their agenda of world domination and control with immunity from media attention. If you doubt this, just check to see the last time the Rothschilds and Rockefellers headed the Forbes list of richest people in the world. Rather than holding down the top spots due to their enormous and cunningly concealed wealth, they are not even on the list. The media refuse to acknowledge the power, wealth, authority, and control that the Zionists truly have in this world, because if they did, then some attention would be directed their way when people discuss what is wrong with this world – and why. They have set things up, and controlled things so well, that they never receive this bad publicity. Instead, they portray themselves as philanthropists and benefactors of all mankind – whom they think of as animals, and gladly sacrifice as "burnt offerings" to their blood-thirsty and evil "god" Yahweh (Jehovah). The Nazis allowed a ship full of Jews to leave Germany, to see if another country would be willing to accept Jewish refugees. But, every country, including the United States, refused to let the passengers disembark. Because of this worldwide Zionist policy of refusing to accept Jews anywhere – because of their desire to claim Israel as the homeland of the Jews – many Jews were sacrificed for the political Zionist cause. The shipload of Jews was forced to return, sacrificed as another burnt offering to the greater glory of Yahweh. H.G. Wells noted, "Zionism is an expression of Jewish refusal to assimilate. If the Jews have suffered, it is because they have regarded themselves as a chosen people". The Zionist leaders of the Jewish community have repeatedly, historically, ensured the suffering of their lesser brethren. It is they who have sacrificed the good and innocent among the Jews, willingly, consciously, methodically, so that they could implement their own, self-serving, evil agenda.
Thank you very much all for keeping it straight-foward so far, please do not allow current events to come into this as it will only most likely bring flaming, let's discuss the historical backround of this conflict instead and the parties involved. Please do not turn this into a religion flame war as well. Dino Crisi The reason Mohammad slaughtered the Jews in Medina is because the Jews would not surrender the profitable silk trade to Mohammad as he demanded. Thus, Mohammad raised an army and sacked the city and killed all the Jews who wouldnt hand over the silk trade. Medina was largely a Jewish settlement founded on the Arab penisula during the 5th century AD after persecutions in Persia drove them south. The Jews established a very profitable caravan route through the desert and became quite prosperous. Obviously the other local Arab merchants were envious of the rich trade and so was Mohammad as it was the city he decided to make his new capitol after he was run out of Mecca. Mohammad first tried to convert the Jews in order to subjugate them, and when that failed he threatened them with exile. When one Jewish tribe refused to subjugate they were defeated and exiled. This particular tribe was the Bani Al-Nadheer. Thus all the others had no choice but to sign alliances. Now the tribe in question that was massacred and sold into slavery by Mohammad was the Bani Quraytha. At the Battle of the Trench, as Mecca attacked Medina, rumors circulated that the Jews intended to betray Mohammad. The Jews had control of the fortresses and natural defenses while Mohammad dug a trench and placed his army in it. The Battle of the Trench was a victory for Mohammad because the Meccans could not penetrate the defenses. Nonetheless, Mohammad inexplicably murdered the Jewish men and sold the rest into slavery. I have one simple question... If the Jews intended to betray Mohammad then... why didnt they? The Jews did not surrender the fortresses to the Meccans and held their ground against them. The only sources we have for Jewish treachery are ambiguous rumors and verses in the Qur'an written by Mohammad himself....... which I'm sure every sensible person can see is like reading Benedict Arnold's diaries to see how the Americans betrayed him... As an historian it is the only recourse to conclude that the Jews were betrayed by Mohammad and Mohammad was the one who broke his alliance with the Jewish tribes. Whether you like it or not, Mohammad did, factually, and historically, sell the Jewish captives into slavery. Here are other Muslim killing of Jews that are Dhimmi: Places like Iraq or Saudi Arabia where Medina used to be the Jewish city of Yathrib. There has been a muslim genocide against the Jews for centuries. On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power. Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco . Other mass murders of Jews in Arab lands occurred in Morocco in the 8th century, where whole communities were wiped out by the Muslim ruler Idris I; North Africa in the 12th century, where the Almohads either forcibly converted or decimated several communities; Libya in 1785, where Ali Burzi Pasha murdered hundreds of Jews; Algiers , where Jews were massacred in 1805, 1815 and 1830; and Marrakesh, Morocco, where more than 300 hundred Jews were murdered between 1864 and 1880. Decrees ordering the destruction of synagogues were enacted in Egypt and Syria (1014, 1293-4, 1301-2), Iraq (854- 859, 1344) and Yemen (1676). Despite the Koran's prohibition, Jews were forced to convert to Islam or face death in Yemen (1165 and 1678), Morocco (1275, 1465 and 1790-92) and Baghdad (1333 and 1344). The situation of Jews in Arab lands reached a low point in the 19th century. Jews in most of North Africa (including Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Morocco) were forced to live in ghettos. Also for example in Yemen; Any Jewish orphan was forcibly taken and converted to Islam. A Dhimmi cannot bring a court case against a Muslim. And if a Muslim brings a case agaisnt him he is allowed two Muslim witnesses but no lawyer or the like. ======= getsuga12 The Jewish population in pre-1948 Palestine was always limited by either the Ottoman Empire or the British Empire (Mcdonald White Paper), if I recall correctly it never got above 30%. Also it shouldn't matter as the Arab birthrate is somewhere around 6.x and the Jewish birthrate is around 2.4, so there is never any real threat of that. Also remember that it was not their country, it was either the Ottomans or the British, Syria Palistina (its correct name) never in its entire history was sovereign. Arabs fled in 1948 because they feared retribution by the Jews for what they did to them, don't forget that all these Arab villages here took sides with the other Arab countries and launched attacks on neighboring Jewish villages in 1948. Also over 800,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries, yet they are not called refugees.
@ Wacko - Though this is not the thread for it I will respond to it anyways: http://www.remember.org/History.root.rev.html Also the last paragraph gave me a smile. Every Jew is a Zionist, not political but spiritual. In our prayer three times a day we pray to return to Zion and re-build the temple. Also what is with the conspiracy theories in your posts? I wish Jews had that much power. I love that you show Sabra and Shattila as Israeli massacres, they were done by Christian Arab "Phellangists" no less but you blame it on Jews.... Also here is the truth behind Dir Yassin: The progrom in Jerusalem began on the Muslim holy day; August 23, 1929. Thousands of Arabs streamed into the city carrying iron bars, sticks and knives. In the courtyard inciters from Jerusalem and the two nearby villages of Lifta and Kalandia heated the atmosphere, and at 12:30 P.M. the mob burst forth, heading in two directions: towards the Jaffa and Damascus gates. At Jaffa gate, Jews who inadvertently passed by were attacked. Despite the presence of police, the two Ruttenberg brothers were beaten and stabbed to death. On Jaffa Road, Jewish stores were smashed by some sixty Arabs from Lifta and a Jewish newsman murdered. In the small Georgian quarter, home of poor Jewish families, four Jews including a women and child were slaughtered and the humble homes looted. An attempt to smash into the Mea Sh’arim quarter was thwarted. The worst attacks were on the outlying Jewish neighborhoods in the new, Jewish, part of the city. The neighborhood of Remema, through the Diskin Orphan Home, Givat Shaul, Montefiore, Bet Hakerem, Yefe Nof, and Bayit V’Gan, were targets of a large attack led by Arabs from the billages of Dir Yassin, Ein Kerem, and Lifta. Dir Yassin Arabs were the leaders and organizers of the attack, and the village became famous in 1948 when it received its just reward for the many Jews slaughtered by its citizens. Also you list all those Arab villages but neglect to mention that they were involved in the 1948 fighting and before.
A Letter from Peta Mansfield who lived through it all, as a slave in a ***** forced la A Letter from Peta Mansfield who lived through it all, as a slave in a ***** forced labour camp : "Dear Dr. J. S Chiappalone Thank you very much for your most helpful exposure of Zionism via your books. Like so many others I always had an uneasy feeling about Jews and you don't know whether to feel guilty or justified about that. Few people realise that, as you pointed out, the bad ontological Jews reflect badly on the ordinary innocent Jews. Like Hitler, virtually everyone associates the bad Jews with the good ones, which considerably increases the suffering of the good Jews. So many hurtful jokes we tell about Jews are at the cost of the good ones. Had we known the difference between these types of Jews a lot more of them would have been protected and saved in Europe. (To understand what Peta means by good and bad Jews, you will need to read our publications - ed.) The bible made no sense to me. But that written rot has trapped most Western people into accepting Jews as a special people, and so many well-willing and reasonable people like myself tried to find all sorts of reasoned explanations and excuses for Jewish behaviour and suffering. Many have had unpleasant experiences with Jews but, not being able to do all that research themselves, would fear that all those nasty revelations about the power of the Jews that have appeared from time to time, might be hateful exaggerations, especially if they come from people who themselves are seen as suspect. If one feels that the belief that Jews are a superior people is a sort of reverse racism, one may be inclined to deny that by pointing out that there are plenty of ordinary, often pretty stupid Jews. But in the end, do we have to accept that all those people who wrote nasty things about the Jews and that all those societies and nations that drove Jews out of their midst were ignorant, stupid and badly prejudiced people? The Lutherans are, I believe, quite embarrassed over what Luther wrote about Jews: "He must have unthinkingly expressed the nasty prejudices Christian people had of Jews at that time." !!! But isn't it silly to say that of a man who had the perspicacity and the courage to expose the evils in the Catholic Church? Do we expect him to have been blind to the evil influence of those interloping parasites? But we have been brainwashed into believing that all Jews are the good, holy, chosen people of God, and that if there appears to be any trouble with them it must be the fault of the non-Jews. I do not like the term `anti-semitism' and do not use it. I have heard an explanation of how that term came about and I feel that this term has been hijacked by the Jews. I have nothing against all the other semites. How the concept of `Holocaust' came to be applied to the situation in Germany I will never know. I feel that the term is wrongly applied. The claim of the Zionist Jews that they were exclusively the victims of the holocaust is unsustainable. The holocaust was the National Socialists' attempt to sacrifice anybody and anything to their confused ideology. But the ***** command structure was based on that idiotic ideology and was very chaotic. There were continual power struggles between the army and the Nazis; the army and the SS, and among ***** and non-***** organisations and individuals, and amongst Nazis themselves. There were plenty of ideological rantings against opponents of National Socialism, and against the Jews, the Slavs and others considered inferior, and against communists and plutocrats. But there was no proper planning to achieve any definite goals. There were a great variety of sub-plans, often with conflicting aims. The attempted executions of any plans were haphazard. Whatever plans there were they could not succeed because there was not enough military hardware and not enough production of it to sustain any initially successful actions. There was not enough manpower, transport, medical supplies, food and clothing. These problems of shortage were greatly exacerbated by allied bombings. While initially great military advances were made, these actions petered out. Neither England nor the Soviet Union were taken. While here and there systematic efforts were made to exterminate all the exterminables such as the mentally inferior, gypsies, slaves, and Jews and great numbers of them were murdered, lots of intended victims escaped, were hidden, or were used and survived as slave labour. A number of Jews bargained their freedom with the Nazis at the cost of other Jews. The Nazis and a lot of non-Nazis liked to see Germany rid of Jews and they would have been happy to see them leave of their own accord if any other country would take them. The claim of Himmler, near the end of the war, that they had solved the Jewish problem was exaggerated nonsense. The German need of manpower saved also a lot of Russian, Ukrainian and Polish men and women. But initially there had been no definite plans to use exterminables as workers and to make proper use of them as a workforce. The output of concentration camp prisoners was very low. The two aims of exterminating exterminables and winning a war on multiple fronts were in conflict. The resources used in exterminations were not available in warfare and vice verse. The Germans did not even plan their war properly; they started it before they were ready for it. They were ideologically too muddleheaded to realise that you can't win a war with bluff and blitzkrieg. They failed to back up their blitzkrieg and knock their enemies out for good. The loss of army personnel was great and had to be replenished with Germans withdrawn from the workforce. Slave and forced labourers needed then to be used as workforce. While Albert Speer wanted the war supplies to be manufactured in occupied countries Schaukel wanted to bring foreign workers into German factories. Both systems existed side by side. There were a lot of complex and incomprehensible commands and regulations about how German civilians should behave toward foreign workers. These rules were not known, not clear, ignored or anxiously, fanatically or sadistically adhered to and surpassed. There were sets of rules and regulations on how prisoners in prison camps, and prisoners and foreign workers should be treated in the workplace, and on what foreign workers should be supplied with. But the interpretation and the compliance with any rules was left to the individual camp commander and Lagerfuhrer. As the German authorities - Nazis and non-Nazis - had their hands full with the war effort and with fighting each other they gave little attention to what happened to the prisoners and the foreign workers, who were left in a moral vacuum that got filled with a great number of fanatics, criminals and sadists who did as they liked. As the Allied forces advanced, the evacuated prisoners swelled the remaining, already overfull concentration camps where many thousands died because of the worsening conditions in the chaotic last phase of the war. So, who are the victims of this Wagnerian holocaust? I feel that we must make a distinction between the purely national warfare and the National Socialists' instigated violence. The German army commanders imbued with soldierly honour balked at the criminal excesses the SS displayed before their eyes. We must make a distinction between those who were victims of warfare and those who were sacrificed to the ***** ideology. The German and Allied army personnel killed in action were victims of warfare but not holocaust victims. Russian, Polish and Italian prisoners of war were not holocaust victims but became that when they were put into concentration camps as racial inferior exterminables and died there. Or when they, as prisoners, were simply gunned down en mass or left to die of cold and starvation. Many civilians were just victims of warfare, but Russian, Ukrainian and Polish villagers who simply were gunned down, burnt in their houses and churches, or chased away to die in the wintry wilderness because they were exterminable slaves, are holocaust victims. Most Germans suffered badly during the war, but one could argue that all those Germans who died in concentration camps of one kind or another because they did not fit into the ***** ideology or were actively opposed to it, like Hans and Sophie Scholl, were all holocaust victims. Soldiers who were executed for breach of army discipline must be left out of the count of holocaust victims. But the 13,000 to 15,000 Wehrmacht soldiers who were executed because they were regarded as having sinned against the brutal and senseless ***** discipline should also be considered as holocaust victims. Field Marshall Von Paulus, in possession of nine tenths of Stalingrad, responsibly planned to break out when the Russians began their pincer movement around the city. Had he succeeded, as he probably would have, he could have destroyed the pincer movement and retaken Stalingrad. Hitler, with his Wagnerian fantasies, however, ordered him to stay put and promised him supplies. But as no supplies came, the 85,000 men who died of starvation and deprivation can be said to be victims sacrificed to Hitler's grotesque fantasies in which he expected Von Paulus to play the role of Teutonic hero and shoot himself. Many, many more of all sorts of other people than the Jews were sacrificed to the ***** ideology, and the claim of Zionist Jews that the holocaust concerned only them is a brazen affront and an insult to all the other holocaust victims, not to speak of all those who were not killed but nevertheless suffered terribly. While the air is filled with vehement arguments about whether there were gas chambers or not and how many Jews died in them, what happened to all the other holocaust victims is ignored and forgotten. Lots of evidence as to what happened to them has been erased by the Germans and the Russians soon after the war. And if any of it has been rebuilt as a commemorative gesture it is now taken as evidence that they are fakes, and that all the others are fakes and that in reality nothing or very little has happened. And while the world is overwhelmed with Zionist gas chamber horror tales and the voices of Zionists are clamouring loudly for compensations, the far greater number of ***** holocaust and war victims never get a word in edgeways and never got any compensation, or if they did, it took them a long, long time. I have always assumed that there were gas chambers but the only one I saw was in the Dachau concentration camp museum. It had been installed late in the war but not been used. But to me whether they existed and were used or not is neither here nor there. There were worse ways of killing people and those who died a quick death in a gas chamber were luckier than those who died after years of totally destroying tortures. Stories that lampshades were made out of the tattooed skins of victims turned out to be false, as is now generally recognised. Some people have disputed that there had been crematoria in use. But as we know of our own society, cremating dead and diseased bodies is often preferable to burying. It was one way of getting rid of them. Where there were no crematoria they had to be buried. Stalin's holocaust in which 20 million or so were sacrificed to the insane and evil communist ideology, the Turks slaughtering 25,000, or was it 50,000 Armenians, and so many more holocausts hardly get a mention. And while the Zionist Jews erect holocaust museums everywhere, where are the museums to the other holocausts? In the end Hitler himself was a victim of his own holocaust: an imitation of the Wagnerian Gotterdammerung."
A little more on the subject A little more on this subject: 1 Why will the Israeli Zionists not release the authentic Red Cross records of the time and locations, which show who did escape, who did survived and who perished? Is it because these records show some 100,000 perished in the 6 years from 1939 to 1945, not the six million as propaganda would have it? I am not trying to excuse away the horribleness of what happened, I am trying to expose the subsequent horribleness compounded by lies and evil-inspired untruth. 2 If 6 million Jews died at the hands of the Nazis, where did the 5.9 million who settled in Palestine, America, Canada, the UK, Australia, South America, etc., come from? 3 If the 6 million figure is so sacrosanct and precise, why did the Auschwitz Memorial reduce the figure, on its own accord, from SIX million, to ONE million? All this goes to show that Evil begets Evil. ________________________________________ Some 3,000 years ago, the special race created by Jehovah, called the Zionists, began plagiarizing information from others and then distorted it into a spurious version, claiming it to be their own history, calling it "The Old Testament". For "special race" reads "especially evil race". There is no doubt of their evil covenant with the evil Jehovah however. Acting as secretive elements in a new movement (spuriously called Christianity, which it is not, of course) again started by Jehovah after the assassination of Jesus, these same Zionists rewrote most of the so-called "New Testament". Why do they do this? Read "Death of an Evil God" to find out why! A clue is given in Chapter 8 of St. John's Gospel (especially para. 44). That is why the Zionists hate John's Gospel the most and this section in particular. What the Zionists did with the Ancient Wisdom and various manuscripts at the time of Jesus, and before, and for some 4 centuries after they murdered him, they did to the truth of most other Avatars, including Moses, Zoroaster, Buddha, Manichaeus and even Mohammed. Today they are doing exactly the same thing with this section of history they want to call the Holocaust. But they only fool themselves, and the other fools who are the demons and robots of this dimension. But it does not really matter when the spiritual bottom line is reached, for they, being spawns of the Celestial Error, are all being corrected in a way they dread the most - in the manner of Divine Justice!
Read my previous post and the link in it Overall you have not shown any facts and all these are speculations or opinions. Or how about the exclusive Muslim division, the Hanzar SS division, slaughtering 250,000+ Jews and Serbians? And finally Zionists the way it is refered to these days is a Political movement. Not some secret think tank...
1wacko you anti-semitic bastard. Do some serious reading before you spout off such bs. Start your research here, all the info you'll need. The Nazis themselves kept good records on their victims. http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=101471
As promised in my previous post, here is American and British involvment in the Holocaust: ====== Jews trying to flee Germany were faced with the obstacle of not being able to apply for immigration to other countries, only one welcomed them in unlimited numbers: the then socialist USSR. In 1938, US President Franklin D. Roosevelt convened the Evian Conference, a meeting of 32 countries held in France, to decide what to do about Jewish refugees. Although the US and UK were admitting tens of thousands of a year, ten times more were applying for visas. The two main powers asked other countries to take them instead. France refused. The only country in attendance that agreed to increase its quotas was the Dominican Republic. The ***** press saluted the conference as a sign that the world was coming around to its racial policies. The SS Saint Louis departed Hamburg, Germany, in May 1939 bound for Cuba with 937 desperate refugees aboard, nearly all German Jews. Most had applied for visas to the US. Cuba had given them permission to land there while they waited for an answer. Just before they arrived, the US pushed Cuba to change its mind and forbid the refugees to leave the ship. No other Latin American country would take them either. The ship sailed so close to American shores that passengers could see the lit streets of Miami at night. It waited offshore for a response to a cable sent to Roosevelt asking for humanitarian refuge. The US government had already decided against them, but sent no reply. In June, the ship was forced to return to Europe, where many of its passengers ended up in ***** death camps. By 1941, when the Nazis officially forbade Jewish emigration, more than 80 percent of German Jews had already left. But the German invasion of Poland had brought Europe’s main concentration of Jews under the control of the Third Reich. As the ***** armies moved through Eastern Europe and into the Soviet Union, rampaging through heavily Jewish areas in Belorussia and Ukraine, many millions of Jews came under their boot. In January 1942, at a conference in a leafy green suburb of Berlin called Wansee, they adopted a plan for “the final solution”: all Jews would be sent to camps in the east. Those too weak to work would be exterminated. The rest would be worked and starved to death. Those who survived would also be exterminated. The Western Allies knew about this, but kept it secret. When the World Jewish Council in Geneva sent the US State Department a cable detailing the Wansee plans, the government not only ignored it but told a leading American rabbi who had also received the report to keep his mouth shut. The Vatican knew the full story from the beginning through Catholic sources, but despite requests from below, Pope Pius XII refused to make a public statement against killing Jews, whom the Church still officially considered “Christ killers”. Today the Vatican is trying to have that pope declared a saint. Auschwitz, like the other concentration camps, was fed its constant intake of Jewish lives and coal by rail starting in 1942. Without those railroad tracks, the death factory would have ground to a halt and the gas ovens grown cold. Why didn’t the Allies bomb them? After all, they were pounding German-occupied European ports into ruins to wreak economic havoc, and bombed the city of Dresden into an all-consuming firestorm for the same reason. What held them back? It has been argued that Auschwitz lay too far to the southeast to be within range of UK-based bombers. But, if that was ever true, by April 1944, at least, it was no longer. This was publicly proven recently when an RAF aerial surveillance photo of the camp taken back then came to light. Such photos were made to prepare bombing runs. The photo clearly shows the prisoner barracks, the gas chambers and the crematoriums. It is known that Allied intelligence received reports from two escapees from Auschwitz that month, and two more the following month. In August and September of that year, the US Air Force staged bombing runs on an industrial complex less than five minutes by air away from the Birkenau gas chambers. An Auschwitz survivor speaking in a recent BBC documentary bitterly recalls how she and other prisoners watched hundreds of warplanes pass over their heads. They said to each other, Why don’t they bomb this place? Even if they kill lots of us, that’s the only chance any of us have to live. October 1944 saw one of the known prisoner revolts at Auschwitz. Hundreds of prisoners attacked the guards with axes and rocks. They used smuggled explosives to blow up a gas chamber and set a crematorium on fire. The Allies were considering airdropping guns on the camp. They never did. In fact, the camps continued running without outside interference until 27 January 1945, when the Soviet Red Army arrived at its gates. They found about 7,000 survivors, all too weak to walk. The Nazis had taken another 58,000 with them on a death march as they fled to the west. They were determined that even if they were defeated, no Jews would remain alive. The crimes of the US, however, did not stop on that date. Very few ***** leaders and executioners were ever brought to justice for the simple reason that the US protected them. Shortly after the war, the US recruited many former leading Nazis as allies against the Soviet Union. The Allies identified three million Germans as having committed crimes during the war. A million were tried. Eleven were sentenced to death. A few received short prison sentences. Most of the rest had to pay a fine or were briefly ineligible to hold public office. In 1951, almost all of them were amnestied. Big capitalists like Krupp whose factories had used concentration camp labour were given their fortunes back. The ***** commandant at Auschwitz was hung. But of the 10,000 members of the elite ***** SS who administered the murders there, only about 750 suffered even the slightest punishment. As recently reaffirmed by the book US Intelligence and the Nazis by Norman J. W. Goda, based on official American archives, thousands of Nazis and SS officers were brought to the US where “they could be useful in countering communist leanings in immigrant communities,” as an Associated Press article put it. The Catholic Church and American military intelligence worked together to smuggle some of the most notorious Nazis out of Germany. In fact, Goda says, the CIA took a group of German officers who had been responsible for intelligence on the Eastern Front and used them as the core around which to build West Germany’s future intelligence service, still at work today. Jews were strongly represented in the communist movement, and a great many looked to the Soviet Union as a beacon of salvation. The Soviet Union, in fact, was a beacon to the Jewish people as well as to the oppressed in general. The Bolsheviks emancipated the Jews in a country, Tsarist Russia, which had been a hellhole for them for centuries. They welcomed Jews into the revolutionary movement and the public life from which they were previously banned. In the course of World War 2, the Red Army saved the lives of 1.5 million of the 4 million Jews in German-occupied or invaded territory, according to the well-known American historian Arno Mayer. _______________________________________ Congress rejected Bill to open Alaska to Jewish refugees (1940) State Department rejected a Swedish proposal for the joint rescue of 20,000 Jewish children from Germany (1943) “We were probably as much German as we were Jews, perhaps more German than Jew.” Henry Eisner – arrived in Baltimore in 1937 “We grew up together [with non-Jews]. We were very assimilated. We were Germans first, and our religion was Jewish.” Toni Weil Mandel – arrived in Baltimore in April 1940 “At the park I was told, ‘I’m sorry, here’s your money back. We can’t let you skate because you’re Jewish.’” Harry Kulp – arrived in Baltimore in September 1939 at age 9 “The brownshirts would march by our apartment singing antisemitic songs. The windows of the stores were smeared with tar, informing people that this was a Jewish business. The brownshirts were stationed in front of the store, and they took pictures and they prevented customers from going in.” Martha Meier Weiman – arrived in Baltimore in December 1939 “One by one, the children joined the Hitler Youth, and one by one, they stopped talking to me. These were boys I had known all my life.” Ralph Brunn – arrived in Baltimore in December 1938 “Now we had no one – no relatives, no friends, we didn’t know anybody. So we wrote letters all over the United States, we wrote to synagogues and authorities [in an effort to get a signed affidavit]. Most of the time we never heard from them.” Toni Weil Mandel “He’d go to Mt. Washington, because that was the country in those days. There were a lot of wealthy Jews who lived in Mt. Washington, and he would cut the grass. Now, mind you, this man was 50 years old and couldn’t speak any English, and that’s what he was doing after being a businessman. But it was a job, it was a job.” Martha Meier Weiman ============================================= SS. Tiger Hill vs. H.M.S. Lorna On September 1st, 1939. The day Hitler’s bombs were raining down on Poland, the British bullets were raining down on Jews. It is a very little known fact that the first two victims of British bullets during World War Two were two “Illegal Immigrants” fleeing Hitler’s ***** Germany and the Holocaust. Attempting to land in Palestine Her Majesty’s Ship, the Lorna, opened fire on a creaking crate that was not even seaworthy filled to the brim with refugees from the Holocaust. The H.M.S. Lorna fired into the S.S. Tiger Hill killing two Jews. Killed were Dr. Robert Schneider, a Physician from Czechoslovakia, and Zvi Binder, a young pioneer from Poland wishing to settle down and live life peacefully in a Kibbutz. ================================= Look up "Klodovo Affair" for more information
Please, mind the flaming. I welcome such arguements as they are the easiest to disprove, almost all their arguements and logic is based on conspiracy theories so they cannot back it up with proof and claim "Zionist agenda". 1Wacko, out of curiousity, what is a Zionist?
That totally untrue, but not surprising, as you have manipulating history and changeding facts so many times. First Madina was never a Jews settlement; it was lived by ther Ous and Khazraj tribes with some Jews presence. Khayber was a Jews settlement. Ous and Khazraj were always fighting because of the Jews at the time instigated and triggered many of these fight. Prophet Mohammad brought piece to both the tribes, which the Jews did not like because they were profiting of the problems between both tribes. Now if you are saying that Mohammad did kill them because of the Silk trade, then why the Jew writer Samual Aspik, when he published a book in the 16 century about the Jewish History, Qualities and their martyrs all through the Jews history he did not include Al-Nadheer, Al-Qainqaa and Al-Quraizah incidents. I’ll tell you why, because it was then the Jews fault. In addition, when Prophet Mohammad did the killing, he did it using the Jews testament laws. This was based on Saad Bin Muaz's recommendation, which was the leader of the Ous Tribe at that time. I did say they did. That is not true and everybody knows it. Who asked the Romans to torture and crucify Jesus? Weren't they the Jews? He did it according to Jews testaments and laws as I mentioned before.
The Jews of Medina never actually betrayed Mohammed. Mohammad had a 'vision from Allah' that the Jews were plotting against him. Take that how you will.
Thanks for the response, which clearly shows your hatered and bigtory to all others that are diffrent than you are in race, religion and look. Oh yah, in addition, this is the only thing that you can say is I'm anti-seminatic. You all hide behind solgans and words like anti-semitic and others so that no one brings the truth out.
And please describe the methods he used and I will see if they are even in accordance with our laws (we have seperate laws pertaining to Jews and non-Jews of course). What basis or facts? The Romans were just as anxious to rid themselves of another group that rebelled against their philosophies, also didn't some pope within the past several hundred years declare that the Jews are not to blame for Jesus of Nazeraths death? [/QUOTE]
I'll reverse that, were are your proofs of what you are saying, haven't you mention in your first post the scrolls of the elder of zion. I did not even mention it. Moreover, why don't you tell me what is Zionist. Anyway, if you want to know read my next reply.
The Fraud of Zionism The Fraud of Zionism by Wilbur Sensor Most people have been trained to think of Zionism in positive terms. This is understandable. Decades of propaganda have misrepresented Zionism as a progressive, modern force bringing civilization to an arid, uninhabited wasteland. Such an image is an illusion. This essay will uncover the true history of Zionism. It will reveal the facts and make clear the real nature of the movement. A MOVEMENT WHICH ASSUMES THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF JEW AND GENTILE Zionism is an apartheid philosophy. Its founder, Theodore Herzl, was dismayed by the mass anti-semitism in France aroused by the Dreyfuss affair. He became convinced that the separation of the Jews from the Gentiles by ingathering all Jews in a separate Jewish nation was the only solution to the age old "Jewish problem". Herzl spelled out his program in his book Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State): "The Jewish question exists. It would be foolish to deny it... The Jewish problem exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers. Where it does not exist, it is introduced by Jews who move in... I believe I can understand anti-semitism, which is in many ways a complicated movement. I look on this movement from the standpoint of a Jew - but without hatred or fear. I believe I recognize in anti-semitism what is crude humor, ordinary economic envy, inherited prejudice, religious intolerance - but also what is deemed to be self defense." "Anti-semitism grows daily, hourly, among the peoples, and must continue to grow since its causes continue to exist, and cannot be alienated." "The causa remota is the loss, in the Middle Ages, of the ability to assimilate; the cause proxima is our overproduction of middling intelligences, that can neither be drained off, nor rise higher-hence, no healthy draining off, and no healthy rising to a higher level. Downward, we are being proletarianized into revolutionaries; we are the subalterns of every revolutionary party, while at the same time our terrible financial might grows upward." "Will it not be said that I am putting weapons into the hands of the anti-semites? Why? Because I acknowledge the truth? Because I do not assert that there are none but excellent people among us?" "It is a national question; to resolve it we must, above all, first make it into a world political question... We are a people, a people..." "The Jewish State is a world necessity, hence, it will arise..." Herzl demands: "We be given sovereignty over a part of the earth's surface sufficient for the rightful requirements of our people; we shall take care of everything else ourselves." "No one is strong enough, or rich enough, to move a people from one dwelling place to another. Only an idea can do that. The idea of a state may well have such force." "No economic disruptions, no crises, nor persecutions will follow after the departing Jews, but rather a period of prosperity will begin for the lands left behind. An internal migration of Christian citizens into the positions surrendered by the Jews takes place. The outlook is gradual, without any jolt, and its very beginning is the end of anti-semitism." "The Jews leave as respected friends. If individual Jews then return, civilized countries will receive and treat them just as they would treat the citizens of any other foreign country." "This emigration is no flight, but an orderly withdrawal, under the observation of public opinion. The movement is not only to be organized by completely legal means, it can, in any case, be accomplished only with the friendly collaboration of the participating government, which derives substantial benefit therefrom." As these paragraphs make clear, to be a Zionist one must believe there is a Jewish problem. No Zionist since Herzl has ever repudiated this basic philosophical premise: "If we do not admit the rightfulness of anti-semitism, we deny the rightfulness of our own nationalism. If our people is deserving and willing to live its own national life, then it is an alien body that insists on its own distinctive identity, reducing the domain of their life. It is right, therefore, that they should fight against us for their national integrity.... Instead of establishing societies for defense against the anti-semites who want to reduce our rights, we should establish societies for defense against our friends who desire to defend our rights." (Jacob Klatzkin, co-editor of the Encylopaedia Judaica) A MOVEMENT WHICH NEVER TOOK ANY CONGNIZANCE OF THE POPULATION OF THE LAND IT COVETED The Zionists have long maintained the myth, especially in the United States, that Palestine was uninhabited before the arrival of the Zionists. This deception is easily refuted. The British Foreign Secretary, Lord Curzon, writing on October 26, 1917: "Now what is the capacity as regards population of Palestine within any reasonable period of time?...What is to become of the people of this country, assuming the Turk to be expelled, and the inhabitants not to have been exterminated by the war? There are over a half a million of these, Syrian Arabs- a mixed community with Arab, Hebrew, Canaaite, Greek, Egyptian, and possibly Crusaders' blood. They own the soil, which belongs either to individual landowners or to village communities. They profess the Mohammedan faith. They will not be content either to be expropriated for Jewish immigrants, or to act merely as hewers of wood and drawers of water to the latter." Palestine at the beginning of the Zionist movement was part of the Ottoman Turkish Empire. Herzl, when he decided to champion a Jewish state in Palestine, necessarily made overtures to the Sultan on behalf of Zionism. These negotiations establish that the Zionists were well aware of the existence of the Palestinian Arabs. "'When Herzl had spoken of a Charter (from the Sultan) he had not, needless to say, contemplated any eviction of the Arabs of Palestine in favor of the Jews. He was, to judge from his Congress addresses, hardly aware that Palestine had settled inhabitants, and he had, in perfect good faith, omitted the Arabs from his calculations.'"( Zionism, Leonard Stein.) "Was there ever anything more extraordinary than this? Vast plans are made engaging the destinies of a multitude of people, yet the man who engenders these plans never takes the essential first step of surveying the land where he purposes to carry them out. Nor apparently do any of his associates suggest it to him. There might be no Arabs in the world for all the difference it makes to him or to his associates." "Year by year Zionist congresses are summoned... Was a single day's session of a single Congress devoted to the discussion of the understanding which must be reached with the people of Palestine? Not one." "There were nineteen Jewish colonies established in Palestine before the year 1900... All these trusts and colonies and the people who inhabited them were in regular continuous communication with Jewish bodies and persons throughout Europe and America..." "In a hundred ways the conditions prevailing in Palestine and the existence of the Arabs and the varying ways in which the Arabs reacted to existing colonies and to the promise of more colonies must have been known to all active Zionists." "The only conclusion then, and it is a conclusion forced upon the observer, is that if Zionism was unaware of the Arabs it was because most Zionists perceived an obstacle in the Arabs and did not want to be aware to them. (Palestine: The Reality, J.M.N. Jeffries, pp. 40-42.) A MOVEMENT WHICH DISREGARDED PRIOR OBLIGATIONS Zionism, in addition to coveting someone else's land, has always ignored the issue of prior obligations. The Arabs fought as Great Britain's ally in World War I against Imperial Germany's ally, Ottoman Turkey. The Arabs were guaranteed independence in an unified state once the war was won. The British pledge of Arab independence was contained in a letter dated October 25,1915 by Sir Henry McMahon, British High Commissioner in Egypt to Sheriff Hussein of Mecca. "The districts of Mersina and Alexandretta and portions of Syria lying to the west of the districts of Damascus, hama, homs, and Aleppo cannot be said to be purely Arab, and should be excluded from the proposed limits and boundaries. With the above modification, and without prejudice to our existing treaties with Arab chiefs, we accept these limits and boundaries..." "Subject to the above modifications, Great Britain is prepared to recognize and support the independence of the Arabs within the territories included in the limits and boundaries proposed by the Shereef of Mecca." (Palestine: The Reality, op. cited,p.76.) British politicians later pretended that the pledge given by Sir Henry McMahon did not include Palestine. They are impeached by a secret Political Intelligence Department Memorandum on British Commitments to King Hussein. On page 9 the Memorandum states: "With regard to Palestine, His Majesty's Government are committed by Sir H. McMahon's letter to the Sherif on the 24th October, 1915 to its inclusion in the boundaries of Arab independence." The Zionist claim to Palestine has always rested on Lord Arthur Balfour's letter of November 2, 1917 promising British support for a "Jewish national homeland" in Palestine. This letter was issued nearly two years after Sir Henry McMahon's pledge of October 25,1915. A MOVEMENT WHICH WROTE ITS OWN TITLE Foreign Office November 2nd, 1917 Dear Lord Rothchild "I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the cabinet. "His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a National home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country." This document is the grant deed which planted Zionism in the Near East. It is the most discreditable document ever issued by a major power. It was written by those to whom it was addressed and was the payoff for a shameless political manipulation. The British government did not abandon its pledge to the Arabs because of altruistic concern for a "Jewish national homeland". The real reason was stated by David Lloyd George, Britain's wartime Prime Minister: "There is no better proof of the value of the Balfour Declaration as a military more than the fact that Germany entered into negotiations with Turkey in an endeavor to provide an alternative scheme which would appeal to Zionists. A German-Jewish Society, the V.J.O.D. was formed, and in January 1918, Talaat, the Turkish Grand Vizier, at the instigation of the Germans, gave vague promises of legislation by means of which "all justifiable wishes of the Jews in Palestine would be able to meet their fulfillment". "Another most cogent reason for the adoption by the Allies of the policy of the Declaration lay in the state of Russia herself. Russian Jews had been secretly active on behalf of the Central Powers from the first; they had become the chief agents of German pacifist propaganda in Russia; by 1917 they had done much in preparing for that general disintegration of Russian society, later recognized as the Revolution. It was believed that if Great Britain declared for the fulfillment of Zionist aspirations in Palestine under her own pledge, one effect would be to bring Russian Jewry to the cause of the entente." "It was believed, also, that such a declaration would have a potent influence open world Jewry outside Russia, and secure for the entente the aid of Jewish financial interests. In America, their aid in this respect would have a special value when the Allies had almost exhausted the gold and marketable securities available for American purchase. Such were the chief considerations which, in 1917, impelled the British Government towards making a contract with Jewry." (Memoirs of the Peace Conference, David Lloyd George, p. 726.) The eminent Mr. Lloyd George's opinion is confirmed by numerous other sources, especially by Mr. Samuel Landman in his work Great Britain, The Jews and Palestine, Mr. Landman was a very well known English Zionist whose positions included honorary secretary of the Zionist Council of the United Kingdom in 1912, editor of The Zionist, 1913-1914, solicitor and secretary of the Zionist Organization, 1917-1922, and author of several Zionist publications during World War One. His opinion is thus an official one which is completely consistent with that of Lloyd George. "Mr. James A. Malcolm... spontaneously took the initiative, to convince first of all Sir Mark Sykes, Under-Secretary to the War Cabinet, and afterwards M. Georges-Picot, of the French Embassy in London, and M. Gout of the Quai d'Orsay (Eastern Section), that the best and perhaps the only way (which proved so to be) to induce the American President to come into the War was to secure the co-operation of Zionist Jews by promising them Palestine, and thus enlist and mobilize the hitherto unsuspectedly powerful forces of Zionist Jews in America and elsewhere in favor of the Allies on a quid pro quo contract basis..." "The Balfour Declaration, in the words of Prof. H.M.V. Temperley, was a 'definite contract between the British Government and Jewry' (History of the Peace Conference in Paris, vol 6, p.173). The main consideration given by the Jewish people (represented at the time by the leaders of the Zionist Organization) was their help in bringing President Wilson to the aid of the Allies." (Great Britain, The Jews and Palestine, pp.3-6.) Thus, according to the documented statements of both parties the British betrayed their war time ally, the Arabs, in deference to Zionist manipulation in bringing the U.S. into the war on Britains side. The Balfour declaration was not written by British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour. It was written by American and English Zionists on both sides of the Atlantic. Many versions were prepared, discarded and rewritten before the final version was submitted to Lord Balfour to be issued in his name. English politicians, such as Lord Robert Cecil, made minor emendations to the letter which their Zionist "professors" wrote for them. The Covenant of the League of Nations which provided the international legal basis for establishing a British protectorate, or "Mandate" over Palestine was largely written by the Zionist agent, South African general Jan Smuts. The drafting of the language of the actual Mandate was written by U.S. Zionist and Harvard Law Professor Felix Frankfurter at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919. A MOVEMENT WHICH MADE FALSE PROMISES OF EQUAL TREATMENT The false promises of equal treatment for the Arabs are to be found in the Balfour declaration itself. This declaration was produced by many hands over many months with deception as its deliberate objective. "This too, memorable document is not so much a sentence of English as a verbal mosaic. Drafts for it traveled back and forth, within England or over the Ocean, to be scrutinized by some two score draftsmen half co-operating, half competing with one another, who erased this phrase or adopted that after much thought. At long last, out of the store of their rejections and of their acceptances the final miscellany was chosen, ratified and fixed. There never has been a proclamation longer prepared, more carefully produced, more consciously worded." Whatever is to be found in the Balfour Declaration was put into it deliberately. There are no accidents in that text. If there is any vagueness in it this is an intentional vagueness. "....this nationally issued and nationally endorsed document was nothing but a calmly planned piece of deception." (Palestine: The Reality, J.M.N. Jeffries, pp.) The entire Balfour Declaration cannot here be analyzed. A few illustrations of its deceptive character will suffice. "...it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious nights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..." "At the time of the Balfour Declaration the population of Palestine was 90% Arab and 10% Jew. "Before this unpalatable reality, what did the framers of the Balfour Declaration do? By an altogether abject subterfuge, under colour of protecting Arab interests, they set out to conceal the fact that the Arabs to all intents constituted the population of the country. It called them the 'non-Jewish communities in Palestine'! It called the multitude the non-few; it called the 670,000 the non-60,000; out of a hundred it called the 91 the non-9. You might just as well call the British people 'the non-Continental communities in Great Britain'. It would be as suitable to define the mass of working men as 'the non-idling communities in the world,' or the healthy as the "non-bedridden elements amongst sleepers,' or the sane as 'the non-lunatic section of thinkers' - or the grass of the countryside as 'the non-dandelion portion of the pastures'." (ibid, pp. 177-178.) "The crux arrives with 'civil rights'. What are 'civil rights'? All turns on this point. If civil rights remain undefined it is only a mockery to guarantee them. To guarantee anything, and at the same time not to let anyone know what it is, that is Alice in Wonderland legislation. 'I guarantee your civil rights', said the White Queen to Alice in Palestineland. 'Oh, thank you!' said Alice, 'what are they, please?' 'I'm sure I can't tell you, my dear,' said the White Queen, 'but I'll guarantee very hard.'" (ibid, p.179) As soon as the Zionists set up shop in Palestine they made clear the real relationship of Jew to Arab. The formal government authority in Palestine, 1918-1920, was rested in the British Military Government. A competing, and in fact superior form of government existing side by side the British Military Government was the Zionist Commission. The attitude of the British Military Government and of the native Arab population was summed up by Sir Louis Bols: "It will be recognized from the foregoing that my own authority and that of every department of my Administration is claimed or impinged upon by the Zionist Commission, and I am definitely of opinion that this state of affairs cannot continue without grave danger to the public peace and to the prejudice of my Administration." "It is no use saying to the Moslem and Christian elements of the population that our declaration as to the maintenance of the status quo on our entry into Jerusalem has been deserved. Facts witness otherwise: the introduction of the Hebrew tongue as an official language; the setting up of a Jewish judicature the whole fabric of Government of the Zionist Commission, of which they are well aware; the special traveling privileges to members of the Zionist Commission; these have firmly and absolutely convinced the non-Jewish elements of our partiality. On the other hand, the Zionist Commission accuses me and my officers of anti-Zionism. The situation is intolerable, and in justice to my officers and myself must be fairly faced." "This Administration has loyally earned out the wishes of His Majesty's Government, and has succeeded in so doing by strict adherence to the laws governing the conduct of the Military Occupant of Enemy Territory, but this has not satisfied the Zionists, who appear bent on committing the temporary Military Administration to a partialist policy before the issue of the Mandate. It is manifestly impossible to please partisans who politically claim nothing more than a "National Home", but in reality will be satisfied with nothing less than a Jewish State and all that it politically implies." "I recommend therefore, in the interests of peace, of development, of the Zionists themselves, that the Zionist Commission in Palestine be abolished." (ibid,p.359) A MOVEMENT WHICH DISCARDED ITS OWN SPONSOR The British Mandate existed only to protect the incoming Zionists from the native Arabs. Mr. Vladimir Jabotinsky makes this clear in his 1923 title The Iron Wall (We and the Arabs): "Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is, in toto, our policy towards the Arabs... A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future." "If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some 'rich man' or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not "difficult', not 'dangerous', but IMPOSSIBLE!...Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important.... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing." The British soon realized what a grave problem they had created for themselves by sponsoring Zionism in Palestine. The Arab riots of 1920, 1921, 1929 and 1936-39 brought one British investigating commission after another to Palestine, all reaching the same conclusion - the cause of unrest in Palestine was massive Jewish immigration into a land already inhabited by Arabs. In 1937 a Royal Investigating Commission headed by Lord Peel concluded that the proper solution to Jewish-Arab tension was to partition Palestine, creating a Jewish state, an Arab state and a British maintained "Polish Corridor" dividing the two. The Zionists reluctantly accepted the partition proposal but the Arabs did not. From this point on the British had outlived their usefulness to the Zionists. In 1944 the terrorist underground Jewish group, the Irgun Zvai Leumi, began a partisan war to drive the British out of Palestine. The many bloody misdeeds of this group included assassinating British Soldiers, raiding British military depots, assassinating the British High Commissioner in Egypt, dynamiting the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, etc. until the British finally quit Palestine on May 15, 1948. A MOVEMENT WHICH COLLABORATED WITH THE AVOWED ENEMY OF ALL JEWS Zionism was founded on the mutual incompatibility of Jew and Gentile. As such it had a built in incentive for collaborating with another ideology built on the incompatibility of Jew and Gentile - Nazism. Zionist collaboration with National Socialism dates almost from the inception of the Hitler regime. The Ha'avara, or Transfer Agreement dates from May, 1933. Under this arrangement approximately 10% or 50-60,000 of Germany's 500-600,000 Jews were sent to Palestine with their assets minus an exit tax. This fulfilled the Zionist desire to reroute Jews to Palestine while promoting the ***** desire to rid Germany of Jewish influence. Zionism enjoyed the official favoritism of the Hitler government. Numerous articles praising Zionism appeared in the German press. Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Reich Propaganda Minister, commissioned a special medallion commemorating Zionism. The Zionist blue and white flag was the only national symbol permitted to fly in Germany other than the swastika. More importantly, special Zionist training camps existed in Germany to train German Jews for agricultural work in Palestine. On at least one occasion, Chaim Weizmann the future first president of Israel vetoed the Rublee-Schact plan of January, 1939 which would have removed all Jews from Germany within a five year period. Weizmanns reason for so doing? He felt it was preferable to leave the Jews under German control so that they could later be sent to Palestine, rather that allow them to choose their own destination. In this regard Weizmann endorsed the thinking of his political rival, David Ben-Gurion: "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Yisrael, then I would opt for the second alternative. For we must weigh not only the life of these children, but also the history of the People of Israel." (Yoar-Gelber, Zionist Policy and the Fate of European Jewry (1939-42), Yad Vashem Studies, vol. XII,p.199.) A MOVEMENT WHICH REJECTS INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION BUT WHICH DEMANDS INTERNATIONAL OBEDIENCE Zionism has never rested on consent, either of the Arabs of Palestine, of the influential English Jewish community which opposed it when first proposed or of the occasional gentile politician who warned of its dangers. Zionism has always demanded "Bow Down Before Me"! Zionism ignored the British White Papers urging restriction of Jewish immigration to Palestine, it has ignored the United Nations resolutions on return of conquered territories, it continues to ignore the settlements on the West Bank of the Jordan river. Zionism will never become a democratic movement because it is a doctrine of divine right. It is rooted in blood, mysticism and return to the soil. Zionism has forged its case. It has used deceit, broken promises, backroom diplomacy, violence, blackmail and terrorism to achieve its ends. It has slept with the Devil while posing as an angel.
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Israel Can't Hide From Its History Forever Israel Can't Hide From Its History Forever By Greg Felton (Article first appeared in the May 11, 1997 Vancouver Courier. Reprinted in the Jan/Feb 1998 Washington Report for Middle East Affairs.) A country is part fact, part myth. The former is a province of economists, politicians and other practitioners of the mundane; the latter principally belongs to history, and is no less important to a healthy country. For a country to be healthy and united , its leaders must promote a unifying national ethos replete with heroes, traditions and celebrations of its past. It's all well and good to beat the drums of pragmatism, fiscal and otherwise, but a people who needs to know that it belongs to a larger community and to have that membership reinforced through ritual and common celebration. Otherwise, there'd be nothing that could properly be called a country -- just a community of communities. However, myths and their attendant celebrations have a dark side. If used to prop up ideologies and false histories, their innate mendacity will sooner or later tear a country apart. This brings me to Israel, which celebrates its 49th birthday on Thursday. Given the events of the past year, one wonders how many it has left. Notwithstanding the fact that it was created by a United Nations decree, Israel is built on a lie. The lie manifests itself from time to time, as in last year's tunnel opening and the construction of the latest Jewish colony in Arab East Jerusalem. In good Zionist fashion, prime minister Benyamin Netanyahu has often declared that Israel is in the West Band and Jerusalem to stay, and that all Jews have a historical right to settle there. From the Israeli view, the Palestinians must accept this before there can be peace. The Palestinians will have none of it, and for good reason. Although Netanyahu's claim is familiar with Israeli history, it is entirely fallacious. It fails to mention the Khazars. The Khazars were a nomadic Turko-Finnic people who migrated out of the Caucasus in the second century and came to settle, broadly speaking in what is now southern Russia and Ukraine. In AD 740, Bulan, the khagan (ruler) of Khazaria, declared that paganism wasn't good enough for his people and decided to adopt one of the "heavenly" religions: Judaism, Christianity or Islam. He sent for representatives of each faith, but found their arguments unconvincing. Bulan then asked each of them a question: if they had to give up their creed for one of the others, which would it be. When the Christian and Muslim both said Judaism, Bulan had his answer. From that moment, the Khazars lived according to Judaic law. The Khazar Empire lasted until the Mongol invasions of the 13th century forced its Jewish population to flee northwest into Poland, Germany, Russia and elsewhere. They quickly outnumbered the established Semitic Jews who had come centuries earlier from the Middle East. We know these Khazari Jews today as the Ashkenazim, or European Jews. The history of the Khazars and their Judaic conversion is a documented, undisputed part of Jewish history, but you see why it causes the Zionists fits. It proves that the European Jewry is largely Caucasian, not Semitic. This means that Israel's Zionist founders Chaim Weizmann, David Ben-Gurion, Ariel Sharon and Yitzhak Shamir and Golda Meir, for example, cannot claim affiliation with Israel's biblical past. In fact, the region's Semitic Jews, Christians and Muslims who have genealogies going back to biblical times do have a right to live in Israel. It is with good reason that author Alfred M. Lilienthal declared Judaism's Khazar's heritage to be Israel's Achilles heel. The false history of Israel as a homeland for victims of European persecution is tied up with fallacies of Israel's "war" of independence. Zionist history says the victorious Jews won nationhood in a war against superior Arab numbers. We know this to be a fiction. On May 15, when Israel received formal U.S. recognition, well equipped Zionist forces included: 30,000 fully mobilized regulars, 32,000 second-line troops; 15,000 settlement police, a home guard of 32,000, as well as 3000-5000 troops from the Irgun and 200-300 from the Stern Gang. Soldiers in the Arab forces comprised fewer than 20,000 poorly trained and armed troops, including volunteers of the Arab Liberation Army. More than falsified history, though, European Jews exploited the suffering of their own people to further a policy of aggression and expropriation. As prof. Ilan Pappe of Haifa University wrote in the Journal of Palestine Studies (winter 1997): " generally speaking, the Zionists succeeded in persuading large segments of world public opinion to link the Zionist cause with the Holocaust. Against such a claim, even able Palestinian diplomats --and there were not many in those days- could hardly win the diplomatic game." (Ironically, the term anti-Semitic, so often used to label critics of Israel, is a misnomer; European Jews are the true anti-Semites in Israel.) Within Israel today, Pappe said Zionist version of the truth are beginning to loose credibility. So-called "New Sociologists" and "New Historians" are openly criticizing traditional verities, such as Israel never provokes hostilities, and whole peoples can be displaced and marginalized in the name of "national security". They're even exposing the false history of 1948. While some Zionists are willing to criticize Israel's post-1967 expansionism, Pappe says the period 1882-1967 is still of limits. Now that Israel's expansionism in the West Bank is open to general debate, perhaps one day so too will be the period 1947-48 and maybe even Zionism itself.