difference is the clio would probably fall apart before it finished a lap.. i dont know anyone with a renault who hasnt had problems with them..
i have had a quick look, im still tryin to find the bst forum though, will look there more now i know someone! how do i upload you all a picture??
Host it on www.imageshack.us, just browse for the file and then put the link it gives you between img tags . ie, don't put the spaces in though when you post the pic.
kinda off topic, but i just want to say Top Gear friken rox, I've been watching it since season 6 and the new 8 series is even better.