360 Vs. PC

Discussion in 'Games, Gaming & Game-demos' started by Ryman03, Nov 12, 2005.

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Which system do you prefer in terms of graphics and gameplay?

  1. CPU

    81.9%
  2. 360

    6.9%
  3. I still play Atari!

    1.7%
  4. I don't care, and in this case I shouldn't be voting.

    9.5%
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  1. UnclePappi

    UnclePappi Banned

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    Ati has stated that they don't have a gfx card out to match the 360's right now but they never said it was x2 the strength of the x1800. Whoever said it made that up. Has anyone seen the movie for lost planet(360)? The gfx look better than anything ive seen yet.
     
  2. compgeek89

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    Yet the GTX512mb is 25% more powerful than the XT, so I am 99% sure it is more powerful than the Xenos.
     
  3. JeyNyce

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    But what if you own a PC and a 360?
     
  4. PrinceGaz

    PrinceGaz Maha Guru

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    Then you say how much better they both are than the PS3 will be :)
     

  5. UnclePappi

    UnclePappi Banned

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    The gtx 512 may very well be more powerful than xenos but the truth is we probably will never know.
     
  6. kitch9

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    You are right...... Completely different architecture, presumably to keep everybody guessing, which is all this thread is...... Guesses....

    Till somebody does an xbox version of 3d mark that is!! :frown:
     
  7. BlueDragonXP

    BlueDragonXP Guest

    could this thread just

    DIE
     
  8. AJ²06

    AJ²06 Ancient Guru

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    :D ..........
     
  9. keikdasneek

    keikdasneek Guest

    Time 2 .
     
  10. death__machine

    death__machine Master Guru

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    CLose this thread
     

  11. death__machine

    death__machine Master Guru

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    Yeah it is like a battle field over here:war:
     
  12. Ryman03

    Ryman03 Master Guru

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    I'm sorry, but again, why would we want to lock this thread, that would be pointless. First off, these forums are based around graphics and that is what we are comparing here, graphics.

    Now there have been some great arguments on who thinks what is better and I believe that more good arguments will arise now that the 360 is actually out, and once more people get their hands on it. It is all just for people to explain why they think one is better than the other by backing it up with evidence and resources.

    If you don't like the topic then don't reply in here, no one is making you reply.
     
  13. GuitarScott

    GuitarScott Maha Guru

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    rah.. i don't wanna reply.. but i feel i have to.
    these kind of discussions don't belong here. With so many people having access to computers or 360s.. its pointless because no side will "win."

    you can argue til armegeddon.. and you will find the answer is 42.
    it's like discussing religion or politics.. IT DOESNT WORK.


    -LOCKS Thread-
     
  14. jsv004

    jsv004 Master Guru

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    It's ok if it goes on for 3-5 pgs but this is ridiculous, it's the same discusion page after page there's no point to this thread anymore, like i said before...it should be locked, it has gone long enough...:)
     
  15. Mannerheim

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    Original Civilization kills all Xbox3 games 100-0.

    pointless to argue but fun!!!! :)
     

  16. jblade

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    Yes you are right about the L2 cache, but each core is threaded and by todays INTEL HT standards its 6 CPUs, realistically it is 3. However, about the unified pipes, I have no clue where you got that data, but it is bull****. ATI has not stated the chip is twice as powerfull as a X1800XT. What we do know is the following:
    The pixel piplelines float, therefore if you were to take a normal PC game, and directly convert it to the Xbox360, there would be a performance decrease in all likelyhood. This is the reason this unfied pixel pipline system is superb, games are converted or coded specifically to take advantage of what the x360 have.
    ATI, M$, and devs have stated they are still not sure how powerfull this chip is or can be, so how you already know that it is weak baffles me.
    As far as power consumption, and the heatsink goes, I dunno if you have seen pictures of the inside of the 360, but the heatsink is huge.
     
  17. meatfestival92

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    Anandtech ran an article about this a while ago revealing some of the limitations of the GPU. For instance, all of the pipelines have to perform the same type of operation (pixel or vertex) per clock cycle. Given the unbalanced ratio of pixel to vertex shaders normally required to render a scene, that's going to hit the efficiency (most of the time - in exceptional circumstances it could be beneficial). On top of that, since the unified pipelines are generally quite simplified to keep costs low and yields high, they're not going to perform either type of operation as efficiently as specialised pixel / vertex pipes. Another performance hit there. It's certainly no slouch, but it's highly unlikely to be any better than an X1800
     
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  18. raging_dragon

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    Boring. Same old bull being recycled.
     
  19. pantsmachine

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    I was looking forward to getting an xbox 360 and using it to stream music from my PC downstairs up to my new bedroom. It seemed like quite an elegant solution and as a bonus i could play games on it. Then i read the crap about how it will only work with Windows MCE and not XP. What a load of erse. Can't wait for it to be cracked to run with XP then i might buy one. Microsoft tat, 'oh nobody buys MCE, lets force them'. So my vote goes straight to the PC.
     
  20. Strikerx80

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    xbox 360 blows. i saw cod 2 on it, it wasnt that great. after tweaking cod2, i can make it play 30-50 fps, and look as good as xbox 360 without the jaggies! lol thats with my rig. sad that my rig is comparable to a 360!
     
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