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  1. alanm

    alanm Ancient Guru

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    My thoughts too. Unless I see reports by AV security firms that actual malware had been made to exploit these vulnerabilities and is spreading, not in hurry to do anything about it. But, wondering what sort of form such malware may likely be? A program that can detect browser activity and copy anything in memory if certain keywords (ie, bank) detected in URL of visited site? Seems that any such program would have a monumental task of passing basic AV security in first place. Just wild guess. So what sort of form, program, script, etc, would something have to be to exploit these vulnerabilities?
     
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    Good job, like up
     
  3. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Yes I've read about the issues too, it's just that I couldn't imagine that when Intel knows about this bug for such a long time, some call it one of the biggest hardware flaws of PC history, and yet after half a year there are no updates ready and at hand to be installed that just work.
    On the other hand, Master, I thought you'd advise me to embrace the anger...


    Of course they're trying to get you to upgrade but that plan is rather stupid, since they have no hardware that's not affected by what we are trying to get patches / updates against here. Even AMD has some vulnerabilities, so there actually is no CPU around right now that would improve the situation to a completely safe state. Why should I buy new hardware if it's just as bugged as what we have right now?
     
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  4. Darkiee

    Darkiee Master Guru

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    On that you are right, i am upgrading, to Zen+. Gj intel
     

  5. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    May I ask, would you have upgraded to Intel if this Meltdown / Spectre thing wouldn't have come up? (It was around without us knowing for decades anyway.)
     
  6. Darkiee

    Darkiee Master Guru

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    I would have, maybe not on this rush. I was supposed to upgrade to Ryzen, but thought my 2600k is working just great. And before even this Meltdown / Spectre came up, i was teasing myself with Zen+.

    But obviously, i´ll wait until it´s really out, and a proper review ( Pointing at someone) ;)

    Edit: I did read abit wrong your post, but no, not to Intel, if Zen+ is good, but if prize meets performance, i´m not excluding Intel. But so far, mentally i´m fixed on Zen+
     
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  7. The Goose

    The Goose Ancient Guru

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    My Z170 PRO GAMING is on the Asus list but nothing out yet.
     
  8. mbk1969

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    I suspect that WHEA errors could be read without HFINFO:
    Run Event Viewer, locate log "Applications and Services Logs => Microsoft => Windows => Kernel-WHEA". There are two views there "Errors" and "Operational".
     
  9. ATOJAR

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    Same board and awaiting BIOS update.
     
  10. Fender178

    Fender178 Ancient Guru

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    This makes me wonder about CPUs from the 3rd CPU company of the 1990s which is Cyrix I wonder if their CPUs are effected by these vulnerabilities or at one of them being Spectre.
     

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    Update windows insiders Preview Build 17074 is good protection
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  12. SpajdrEX

    SpajdrEX Ancient Guru

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    tested with latest bios for Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3 ... i'm good :)
     
  13. Susahamat

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    yup im waiting this too
     
  14. XP-200

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    Funny thing is, i tried this program the other day before the W10 1709 update was out, and i only vulnerable to one of the two, but now that i am on 1709 i am now vulnerable to both. lol
     
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  15. mbk1969

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    But last update for 1709 x64 was at 3 November - KB4056892. Yesterday MS issued for 1709 only update for x86.
     

  16. XP-200

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    Maybe i read it wrong, might have been a update for something else, but whatever that update was i am now open to both. lol
     
  17. HeavyHemi

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    Actually in event viewer at the top of the tree the default under 'Custom settings' (which is an odd name for something Windows 10 does by default) which shows 'Administrative Events' which includes WHEA events. What I was trying to get at with Agent-01 is that for those who get the WHEA error, rolling back the Windows patch or editing the relevant bits in the registry to disable some aspects of the MS patch resolves them. So, is it the BIOS or the Windows patch that is causing the issue? I personally do not get these errors with a 'fully patched' system. Meaning with the BIOS update from EVGA and the patches from MS.
     
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    I was assuming that new microcode for CPU was the cause for WHEA errors (for some CPUs).
     
  19. fantaskarsef

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    So I downloaded this program, ran it, safe against Meltdown, vulvernable to Spectre, so far as expected.
    Then again, where does that regard to the performance loss come from? Can't imagine that program runs any benchmarks... I guess it's just according to M$ press release that there "should be no significant performance loss" on certain systems?
     
  20. mbk1969

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    It just checks whether CPU has so called "PCID" feature (Process Context ID) and if has not then it states performance loss. MS PowerShell script does that too but phrases it differently.
     

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