The AMD Ryzen All In One Thread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Jawnys

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    well i did try different setttings, i have a picture of my oc, my setttings arent like on the calculator, i just cant make it work with 4 stick at 3800, but its rock stable at 3733, and the sub timing are tightened compared to the calculator, better tfaw, better trfc and trtp

    as you can see here https://imgur.com/a/TyQERC4
     
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  2. Mr. Sunshine

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    Highest I can get is 3733mhz @ 1.42v memory/ 1.125v SB...... 3800mhz wont boot. system just power cycles till defaults.


    https://imgur.com/a/sxJdEd2
     
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  3. gerardfraser

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    I see you have 32GB Ram and they are good settings ,I think you may be able to run 3800Mhz.You have a couple settings that you can try to adjust for a different result.

    Your tRFC setting are are set aggressive and may prevent booting @ 3800Mhz check out screen below
    Also some voltages are high but you have 32GB and may need them but worth a shot to adjust

    I would try in BIOS ,according to screenshot look like you have settings for 4 sicks of RAM.
    SOC-1.05v-1.1v
    VDDG-0.950v
    VDDP-0.900
    DRAM-1.36 Start here for lower temperatures and see if you can boot
    CPU On-die termination-32-36.9 For Two Sticks of RAM and 40 For 4 sticks of Ram
    RattPark -RZQ5 For Two Sticks of RAM and RZQ1 For 4 sticks of Ram

    My settings for reference if you want to look-X470 + 3600X + CL16 3800Mhz + 1900Mhz uclk=fclk
    https://i.**********/Fz1HZ8Sk/1900fclk-2.png
     
  4. Jawnys

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    cant boot in 3800 as well with 4 stick, im running on asrock steel legend x570, i cant set vddg below 1.0 on my board, 1.0 is tthe lowest i can go for some reason, if i try to lower it, it goes to auto. 4 stick will boot with 36.9 on die termination as well as 34, 40 is a no boot situation,
     

  5. Mr. Sunshine

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    Yes I have 32GB B-die Dual Rank... its this set:
    https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232386?Item=N82E16820232386

    As for settings I'll have to mess around with them. Any Data/Cad Bus settings I have left at auto so maybe setting them will help.

    Update: Tried settings... no go. those setting wouldnt even let me boot at 3733mhz speed. Even tried your exact setting... no boot. So thinking 3733 is max for these sticks. Going to see if I can tweak sub timings lower squeeze out little more.

    I will ask how you got that 3600X to PBO+OD@ 4700mhz and hit 4450mhz?? Thought max was 4600mhz for PBO...
     
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  6. gerardfraser

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    Thought I try to help,sorry it did not work out for ya but 3733Mhz Is good enough and fast.
    For 3800Mhz with the RAM you have more DRAM voltage I would try at least up to 1.5v as long as you have some air to cool RAM.Just a suggestion,if you did not try it yet.

    On my MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard I can set PBO Override up to 500Mhz,so it would read 4900Mhz in Ryzen Master for the 3600X.

    EDIT:In the screenshot it is set to Auto overclock on enhanced mode 4 ,which is 300Mhz Boost override for the 4700Mhz In Ryzen Master.

    Max boost on 3600X/3700X is 4400Mhz + 200Mhz on override/enhanced for total of 4600Mhz for the chips.Highest I ever recorded on video for 3600X is 4525Mhz and Highest I screenshot was 4582Mhz but that was probably wrong reading.The newest BIOS I am using only can hit 4450Mhz ,still waiting for the magic BIOS to hit 4600Mhz.
     
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  7. Mr. Sunshine

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    No prob. Thank for trying. Thata cool option to have in bios. Sounds like PBO/OD/Auto OC works to a point on your board unlike others. My Asus Strix x470 has options up the ass but seem not to work at least for now. Waiting on the new ABBA bios to drop soon. Maybe then I can aleast have my 4425mhz back that was showing 3 bios rev. ago. For now stuck at 4350mhz max
     
  8. OnnA

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    AMD Could Release Next Generation EPYC CPUs with Four-Way SMT

    AMD has completed design phase of its "Zen 3" architecture and rumors are already appearing about its details.
    This time, Hardwareluxx has reported that AMD could bake a four-way simultaneous multithreading technology in its Zen 3 core to enable more performance and boost parallel processing power of its data center CPUs.
    Expected to arrive sometime in 2020, Zen 3 server CPUs, codenamed "MILAN", are expected to bring many architectural improvements and make use of TSMC's 7nm+ Extreme Ultra Violent lithography that brings as much as 20% increase in transistor density.

    Perhaps the biggest change we could see is the addition of four-way SMT that should allow a CPU to have four virtual threads per core that will improve parallel processing power and enable data center users to run more virtual machines than ever before.
    Four-way SMT will theoretically boost performance by dividing micro-ops into four smaller groups so that each thread could execute part of the operation, thus making the execution time much shorter.
    This being only one application of four-way SMT, we can expect AMD to leverage this feature in a way that is most practical and brings the best performance possible.AMD isn't the first to implement this kind of solution to its processors.

    IBM has been making CPUs based on POWER ISA for years now that feature four or even eight-way SMT and they are one of the key reasons why POWER CPUs are so powerful.
    Nonetheless, we can hope to see more details about Zen 3 core design decisions as we approach 2020 and launch of Milan CPUs.
     
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    If you're going to rip off TPU, at least add a link to their page.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/259505/amd-could-release-next-generation-epyc-cpus-with-four-way-smt
     
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  12. Kool64

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    I saw that too and raised an eyebrow or two
     
  13. Evildead666

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    I thought it was a pretty funny typo.

    Still, Hilbert wouldn't like anyone else to rip off his site without at least linking to the site.
    We should show courtesy to other sites as well.
    Everyone is making a living. ;)
     
  14. Kool64

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    The Stilt posted a modified BIOS for my B450M Pro 4 and it's hitting 4.4(4.392 thanks to a 99.8 bus speed ;/) on my 3700X like it's supposed to now

    Running Cinebench 20 right now and it’s boosting to 4.4 even on it and passing the single core test to one of the three “good” cores.

    510 single and 4863 multi(no PBO)
     
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    Oh dear sweet Jebus.
    Care to post a Link ? ;)
    Cheers :)

    edit : Oh wait, Pro 4. I read B450M Pro and got as far as that.
     
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  16. Kool64

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    Yup it’s right here:

    https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...ed-bioses-3rd-gen.html#/topics/1733304?page=1

    There are BIOS for other brands too.

    Oh and PBO still makes everything worse :(

    I just turned off spread spectrum and now I get 4400 on the nose! Hopefully PBO will get fixed too.
     
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  17. Evildead666

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    Yeah, I found the list, but no Asus Tuf B450M Pro Gaming.

    Will just have to wait for the Official version in about a month or so...or create an account on OC.net and see if I can get a request in ;)
     
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    I was super surprised to see it for my board. It wasn't there a while ago so The Stilt is adding them periodically.
     
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  19. Evildead666

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    Just looked in the ABBA thread, and WaveTrex said Asus has upped some New ABBA bios's, and checked the Asus website, and there it was :)

    I will be testing this weekend, ABBA here we come!!! :)

    edit : Major Props to Asus for being so quick.
    I expect they know that literally everyone is waiting on this Bios lol :)
     
  20. Clouseau

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    The ABBA bios for the ASUS X470-F is a step up from prior versions. It posts quicker and a light kicking of the tires has proven to be fairly decent. Still not 100% there but close enough for now.

    It boost now at times to 4.55GHz which is good to see. The same issue still persists that plagued first gen Ryzen; BCLK is still 99.8. Other thing noticed at first glance is that the ram voltage needed went up a step or two. Before could run 3800 (16-16-17-16-32-48) w/FCLK @ 1900 stable at 1.3800v. ABBA required 1.3900v. Plus side is that latency according to Aida64 went down from 64.4 to 64.1. Hopefully this whole 99.8 (it is petty but still bugs me) can be solved.
     

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