MSI R9 280X for SlazsH question

Discussion in 'MSI AfterBurner Application Development Forum' started by MaTrek, Dec 16, 2013.

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  1. MaTrek

    MaTrek Guest

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    hi sorry for new tread but it was open due to underwinder recomandation ,
    ....in this DUMMY forum options I cannot write u PM, yet

    in the last info u told us u have working Vcore slider to set voltage in MSI AB
    Could u tell us ,what kind of vbios u are using and what settings for msi ab ?
    or is it the right one on the picture gpuz you have posted right ?
    I found some older working vbios ,but its a bit older ,but want to know what yours is working just +/-100mV or how...

    for everyotherone who has found that voltage is locked...
    yes ...thats the theme we are talking about now...
    looking for some another bios for our P/N V277-28SB...
    with unlocked voltage control...
     
    MaTrek, Dec 16, 2013
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  2. MaTrek

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    at least one vbios is working +/- 94mV
    tested in MS AB 17B without forcing voltage
     
    MaTrek, Dec 16, 2013
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  3. MaTrek

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    what range is available for corevoltage to change in your vbios version ?
     
    MaTrek, Dec 17, 2013
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    1x R9 280x consummig about 275Watt with PC.
    4x R9 280X take 980Watt with PC. 1000Mhz , ^1.1V
     
    MaTrek, Dec 17, 2013
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  5. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    Results of running MSI AB with the following command line switch on any reference design R9 280X card could be useful:

    MSIAfterburner.exe /I2CD
     
    Unwinder, Dec 17, 2013
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  6. SotYPL

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    I have new revision of this Twin Frozr Gaming: http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R9-280X-GAMING-3G.html

    Voltage seems to be locked and it misses vrm sensor monitors (temp and voltage). I'm attaching output of /I2CD switch and screenshots.

    btw. thank you for 64bit RTSS :)

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  7. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    For that card you can use the following hardware profile modification:

    [Settings]
    VDDC_IR3567B_Detection = 32h
    VDDC_IR3567B_Output = 0
    MVDDC_IR3567B_Detection = 32h
    MVDDC_IR3567B_Output = 1
     
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    Thanks Unwinder. After changing settings voltage change appeared in AB but don't think it actually works. GPU-Z and HWiNFO still shows stock voltage of 1.2V all the time and voltage monitor in AB fluctuate with random numbers. I'm attaching 2 screenshots, first with voltage changed and second with stock.

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    It is supposed to fluctuate. And both GPUZ and HWinfo should be aware about custom VRM of this card to dusplay it properly. Use DMM to verify it, relying on GPUZ is plain wrong way if you're using non-reference design card.
     
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    OK I prefer not to mess with meter and risk any short on card while doing it :) If you say it should be like that I bet it's working. Thanks again for your help and nice to know that my card is not locked as I originally though.
     
    SotYPL, Dec 21, 2013
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    Can someone tell me where to write these settings?

    I tried with MSIAfterburner.cfg in the main folder and MSIAfterburner.cfg in the profiles folder, both with enabled voltage unlock, monitoring and power-play support but the voltage slider is still locked in the main program.
    I'm using Beta 17 and got the same GPU - MSI 280X BF4 Edition.
     
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    There is a Profiles sub folder and file VEN_1002*.cfg inside. You have to put these changes into it.
     
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    Thank you very much, it worked.

    I can also confirm that the voltages do change when adjusted in Afterburner because when I undervolted my GPU with 100mv the temperatures dropped 8 degrees.
     
    pepo930, Dec 21, 2013
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    answer for some another guy
    Hello Unwinder , thanks for tips about I2CD,
    I didn't have much time last week but now I tried to run msi ab with i2cd protocol and found some info about my 4 cards viz quote:
    but I am not clear to understand how to find what to write to my msi ab profiles settings in a case of what I have really found : If you would be so worthy to explain me how you know what to write to the settings for my cards to unlock the Vcore settings in MSI AB BETA 17 , or is it the same settings as I have quotet your answer up for another guy for all of my msi r9 280x graphics cards or its individual...thanks for info.

    so something sais me that could be mabye too this:
    [Settings]
    VDDC_IR3567B_Detection = 32h
    VDDC_IR3567B_Output = 0
    MVDDC_IR3567B_Detection = 32h
    MVDDC_IR3567B_Output = 1

    "because of my proobing device 32 found...."
    but I rather wait for what you will write me about that in a case to not
    write wrong text to my msi setting profiles...

    here is my i2cd found protocol info ,just the necesarry part:

    Anyway thanks for all the help to all the people on this forum ,we know,
    you do it just because you like to be usefull for many msi users...
     
    MaTrek, Dec 25, 2013
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    It is the same as above, but with this BIOS (SUBSYS_27771462) it should work as is.
     
    Unwinder, Dec 25, 2013
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    Hi M new to this forum , and I dont know how to post new queries, so m asking here
    i5 750
    gigabyte H55m-ud2h
    4 GB RAM
    my question is which best graphic card can I use with my Mobo and processor with any bottlenecking etc. but best performance while playng games at 1080 ultra setting. please help
     
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    Yes , the version VER015.040.000.000.003435 works so like so, but my aim is to lower it more than -94mV....
    so I will test it with VER015.040.000.003.003435,
    where it doesn't work the vcore slide voltage before and if it will be
    succesfull than I will start to explore the command line like the post I quotet from somebody:

    but my goal is to make it negative to set it -150mV
    so mabye MSIAfterburner.exe /wi4,30,8d,-18 or how to make an hexadecimal negative number

    so I will try to start "" "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe" /wi4,30,8d,-18

    hope it will work for my VER015.040.000.003.003435 bios ...

    is it so as simple as to put there just an negative - minus mark to get the -150mV or is neccesarry to transform it to some another hexadecimal form...
    I just need to lower my electricity bill so not to burn cards with more power but with less at least working voltage....

    Have a nice Evening
     
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    Hi Sumit , sorry I am not graphic card seller and tester so ask somebody who can tell you that professionaly, probably someone from the motherboards company you have bought .....gigabyte..... there is msi forum... my own subjective tip is mabye powercolor R9 ....because I heard about not strictly limited vcore settings by those producer, however I hope msi will fix the users problem with voltage in some future version of MSI Afterburner and than MSI will be aqain my favourite ,as untill last month....
     
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    There is no BIOS that will provide you extended voltage adjustment range. +/-100 is the maximum you can reach with public AB GUI.
     
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    I understand you,...
    there is no oficiall gui how to do that...thats clear,


    btw: old MSI 7950s are working well undervolted with MSI AB around 1V over 8months and saved a lots of money ,so something is shroten in the state of the MSI future politics to lock voltage ,probably its about the change from great aluminium case to an plastics cooler case...I think, this is a big mistake of company politics...they want to spare some money in the factory but most people used to like msi for its strong build quality, but now they are a bit surprised about the changes to cheaper materials...and limited software ...
    Anyway I am not crying over the broken milk there ...it doesnt matter I just said what I thought about that...who cares...



    Dont worry ...
     
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