AMD announces Radeon VII (7nm)

You know nothing about technology. Stop it here. It is not enjoyable to make a game drop to its knees. When Nvidia goes 7nm, I will gladly support them. It wasn't the proper time for RT, like when ATI introduced DX11 tessellation for the first time with HD 5000 series, same mistakes.

 

Who cares, they aren't trading performance for RT - so it's not like lack of RT would yield some super chip.

 

Wait HD 5k had tesselation? I had a 5850 (last AMD card i bought) and i did not even know it supported it lol

 

Fast indeed but stable as well ? also i am curious how high these temperatures are going to be while the gpu is @ full load.

 

I feel devastated. JHH is already laughing badly. AMD needed 7nm at 699$ in 2019 to surpass 1080ti.

 

radeon 7 feb 7th for 699....16gig hbm2 i really hope they are coming out with cards with less ram..thats what is making it so high in price

 

shadow of tomb raider uses nearly 8gb vram at 4k

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/shadow_of_the_tomb_raider_pc_performance_review/13

i'd say i'd prefer 16gb vram for future games at4k over 8gb and rtx and running a game at lower resolution

 

hey guys chill with the hate.

there will be a 1440p card late march early april and it will blow away the rtx 2070 for less $.

and btw i own Nvidia (until i buy a Radeon VII) and will keep Nvidia in some of my systems.

 

Some games uses "all" vram available. That doesn't mean that it need to use all. It's caching. 1060 6GB is not vram bound @ the same resolution i tombraider

 

Yeah it's obviously the same chip - it's just a cut down MI60 overclocked

 

That VII also means Vega 2, that is the day's important news people. Not only Radeon VII(7)nm.

If they do not launch something important soon, nobody will stop Nvidia from releasing an RTX 3080ti, 35% faster than 2080ti at 1999$. We are gonna die trying buying hardware before play.

 

I guess but if you wanted something like this to perhaps last a while this could be a point, who knows how much vram Next Big Game needs

bf5 uses 6gb per overclock3d at 4k

 

It makes the chip bigger thus more expensive to make while also taking up room that could have been taken up cuda cores. We are still at least 2-3 generations away from having RT combined with decent frame rates.

 

R7 is serious disappointment for me. I expected 20% more performance for 200USD less... and it should have been 8GB card to keep the price down.

 

We've been over this. RT cores don't make the chip bigger - they are extremely small - in fact I'm not even convinced they are a discreet core and not just manifested marketing of improvements to the ALUs. Turing has roughly the same CUDA count per MM2 as GP100 yet features twice the cache size on essentially the same density (7.5T TSMC Cell Library). Best case scenario for you're argument is that they end up with a Titan V which has 16% more CUDA cores than a 2080Ti yet has zero performance improvement because of TDP limitation.

Removing RT would have done absolutely nothing.

 

1) AMD has been working on Ray Tracing just as long as Nvidia
2) Ray Tracing is Microsoft, not Nvidia
3) all AMD cards are natively heavy on compute...which is why crypto loves them.
RT is a driver fix for AMD (but i suspect will take a similar performance hit as
RTX cards).
4) DLSS is Nvidia, but eventually AMD will have an equivalent as it makes too much sense and as Google is partnering with them on streaming it will happen because a stream would benefit the most.

 

will wait for 8GB VRAM version.

 

Just 1999$? Sounds like a bargain

 

Or, she cut him off realizing "oh wait, not all new technologies will be supported - let's not be held liable for such a claim".

What new features were you expecting that are actually of any real interest? Raytracing is the only especially exciting new feature to expect and despite how much Nvidia wants to push for it, not too many people seem to be showing any much interest in it.

Or, to be less pessimistic, the 2080.