3060ti vs 6700xt a year later

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  1. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    So after using 2080 then 3070 and now 6700xt i can tell you my experience. Seeing how trend of unoptimized games, increase in vram usage i swapped the cards. I was having some issues myself with number of games.

    Doom Eternal i wanted to try after an update where 3070 dies after you enable rt at 1440p ultrawide. Literally 1fps even with dlss a slideshow. I had to delete user ini for game to start responding again lol. So much for superior rt when you dont have enough vram. With 6700xt you can enable rt use ultra nightmare textures and still runs better. If the game only had fsr2.

    Callisto Protocol raster performance is favoring 3070 but runs good on both cards. Again if you enable rt on 3070 game becomes stuttering mess and fps dips to 1 just like in doom. 6700xt with rt runs at 40fps. Atleast you can enable it.

    Returnal another UE4 where 3070 shows higher numbers but again 6700xt just feels smoother. 9.5gb vram usage.

    Hogwarts Legacy wont even talk much about it as 3070 didnt had enough vram to run 1440p no rt, unplayable. 6700xt maxing out the game without rt easily.

    Spiderman was running better on the 3070 around 90fps now it runs 60-70fps with rt but with a very frequent stuttering on the 3070 with 8gb being maxed out while 6700xt was all the way smooth. Less swap lower the system memory usage as well.

    Runs better than i expected. Kinda surprised. I miss the dlss though.

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  2. kondziowy

    kondziowy Master Guru

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    It's super interesting that so many games run better on 6700XT but I have not heard about it from any reviewer.
    For games with no FSR, RSR+sharpen is an option. It is worse than FSR though.
     
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    Aside from HU no. They mentioned few times 6700xt will be better on the long run it appears to be true.
     
  4. cucaulay malkin

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    6700xt isn't really better, not even in the latest gpu charts, just 5% over 3060Ti in rasterization alone.

    https://www.computerbase.de/thema/grafikkarte/rangliste/#abschnitt_empfehlungen_fuer_wqhd

    What you're doing is trading a great technology like dlss and image quality that ray tracing provides for worse fsr/no rt but more vram, not because it's better but purely because developers are getting lazy. look at dying light 2, it used to hit 8GB vram with rt at 1440p on but once they patched it was down to 6.6-6.8

    Wouldn't trade dlss for sure lol, even performance looks decent at 1440p, balanced looks very good, and image stability in moition is far superior than the shimmer you're getting wwith fsr.
     
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    Dying Light 2 was maxing out 8gb for me even after the patch just like before it. As i said above superior rt means nothing if you dont have enough vram. Only thing i miss is the dlss.

    Until i can get 16gb gpu with frame generation (amd or nvidia) at the decent price im good for now. :)
     
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    I think 4070ti vs 7900xt will have the same outcome as 3070 vs 6700xt. One is better today the other one will tommorow.

    Hopefuly fsr3 will come to rdna2 too, that would be great.
     
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    4070ti will be smoked by the 7900xt - even in RT, once you get to higher resolutions where VRAM use is more intensive
     
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    That's a lot of aliasing and shimmering in your image LOL, not sure it FSR2 with Ultra Texture would actually look better than DLSS + High Texture quality on 3070 ;).
     
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    Sadly In few examples even medium textures ware a no-go on 3440x1440 on a 8gb card especially if you try to use rt.

    This will be fine until i can get a card with frame generation at the decent price, nvidia or amd. Im not biased like some people here. ;)
     
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    Not sure why you care about future proofing when you are switching GPU pretty soon, shouldn't you care more about resale price :rolleyes:
     

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    In this market better to be safe than sorry. Navi 32/33 are not coming until summer and nvidia prices are insane atm. Latest rumor shows 4070 non-ti will be 599$+ and 4060ti is again only 8 gb card.
     
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    Prices are falling everywhere
    https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-...est-price-yet-of-830-us-8-percent-below-msrp/

    Maybe summer the 7900XT will drop to 600usd :D.

    Btw you swapped your 3070 to 6700XT without any extra cash?
    3070 avg resale price are like 60usd higher than 6700XT, even 3060Ti is selling for higher than 6700XT
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    Might get one then. In two years 7900xt 20gb vs 4070ti 12gb will have similar outcome. :)
     
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    You mean 7900XT resale price will be lower than 4070Ti, despite having higher MSRP ;)
     
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    Yes i initiated the trade so no extra cash as he was doing me a favor.

    Devil three slot cooler is a beast tho temps here are 55c - 70c hotspot, 220w. Gigabyte gaming 3070 was in the mid 70c and hotspots in the mid 90's, pulling 270w. Ampere was so hot and inefficient.
     

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    Resale value will definitely be higher on 4070Ti, judging by how last 5 generations were/are selling. Gaming value... well ;) :p In Portal RTX 100x better for 4070Ti also :cool:
     
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    Considering how the market is for used GPUs, I would bet you could get a 6800 16GB for your 3070.
     
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    Dont think i didnt try but i didnt wanted to pay anything. Maybe if i sold it then bought a 6800 but still it would involve some extra cash i dont have and i dont want to pay for these old cards.

    Rdna3 navi 32 16gb is coming this year.
     
  19. cucaulay malkin

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    If 6700xt really is better, why didn't you get that in the first place ?
    Point is, it really isn't until the game has poor vram management. And even then the real bar it has to clear is that 3060ti/3070 are becoming unplayable, which doesn't make fps in 30-40s good. Would rather use a lower rt preset or dlss balanced instead of quality on that 3070 to stay below that threshold and pump a lot more fps than 6700xt ever would.
    You chose 3440x1440 resolution, that is a bit above of what 3070 cards have vram capacity for when rt is enabled and well above what 6700xt can run with rt even when it's not vram limited.
    IMO you should have looked for a 2080Ti and that would spare you the trade offs.
     
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    I'm seeing a 2080Ti Strix for 420eur used, great condition, original box, from a gaming pc you can even test locally before buying. If 4070 sucks I might buy one. The only problem is strix cards have hhead splitting coil whine so I'll be on the lookout for a trio/palit version.
     
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