Review: Ryzen 9 7950X processor (with ASRock X670E Taichi motherboard)

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  1. mackintosh

    mackintosh Maha Guru

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    My God, are we seriously doing this again? The point is that this is an entry-level HEDT CPU. Its gaming properties are entirely coincidental to its main job - which is to make money for the person using it. If I were still in the business of making money with my PC, I'd be all over it - alas, as my PC is now just an entertainment device, and thus this part is of no interest to me. This in no way invalidates its usefulness though - which is proven beyond any doubt by productivity benchmarks.
     
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    Really don't think the max energy consumption matters at all with so many constantly demanding higher frequencies and single core performance, for those it won't matter at all unless they fall into the want their cake and eat it too. Me I am going to go with energy conservation settings.
     
  3. H83

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    I`ve just read in Techpowerup that boot times are very long (30 seconds) compared to previous CPUs, both from Intel and AMD, is this true?
     
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    I've read the new system needs a longer time to boot because the memory is to be first "trained" and will probably take a couple of minutes if you got a 32 or 64gb mem kit.

    This will probably mean the ram will go through more testing during boot with the added XMP/EXPO and this - DDR5 comes with new features like a Power Management Integrated Circuit, often known as a PMIC.

    This will add boot time but not by much once the system is fully trained.
     
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  5. Meathelix1

    Meathelix1 Master Guru

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    Obsolete? Nvidia talking crap with their 4000 series and the prices of them... yeah, na, you might as well bend over and take it.

    As for speeds and performance increases with tech people should expect a slow down in progression. This ain't 2005 - 2010.
     
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    If only they could have gotten these out a year ago
     
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  7. bobnewels

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    You did not read the post but for the bend over and take it. Nvidia got you covered.
    Nvidia landing page.jpg
     
  8. Meathelix1

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    Without DLSS 3 it will only be a 15% - 20% increase over a 3090 and 3090ti and by the way DLSS 3 is not new tech, this crap has been out for over a year or two now but is open source.

    Just got my son a 3080ti for $1000 AUD brand new. Will last him for years at 1440p Gaming. 3090's are going for $1250 AUD now.

    For a 4080 it will be $2500 from AIBs for what 10-25% increase at 1440p without DLSS 3. lol

    My 3090ti runs games great at 4k with DLSS 2.0 160 fps does not drop below 150 fps.

    So yeah you can buy your magic dust because that's all it is and the 3000 series can run DLSS 3.0 they are just locking them out so they get more sales for the high-end 4000 cards once they are happy with the number of gullible people who got them, they will then release DLSS 3.0 on the 3000 cards.

    As for the 7950x for gaming, it seems like I will stick with my 5800x for a few more years.

    Umm btw, you should of edited that screenshot, as we are not talking about "Water Based Lube" or are you just getting ready?
     
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    The IHS is too thick to keep it compatible with AM4 coolers and this will be an issue with the whole AM5 lineup the years to come I am afraid.
    However, I bet this is also happening for when the 3D GPUs come out. Is easier to carve the metal IHS than use less silicon to keep the height the same like with the 5800X3D having very thin silicon top and probably prone to cracks.
     
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    The first boot when you build the system yes. Both need to train the DDR5, the system can reboot up to 10 times.
     

  11. Meathelix1

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    This is why you just don't jump on new tech as soon as it comes out. So much fixing and tweaking to be had before it becomes polished, I learned that with AM4.
     
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    Completely agree with you and found it with the 5900X. Somehow lost almost no perf using the 65W eco profile with -12 PBO2 all core.
    The CPU still hits 4.95Ghz when stressed to up to 4 cores and 4.6 when on multicore while runs much cooler. Single core perf remained the same and also multicore dropped 2%. So nothing.

    Even turning off SMT, gets 77% the perf (65W eco, -12 PBO2, SMT OFF) that of the full blast full power profile with SMT ON. Which is insane. It should have been much slower considering how much less power and heat it produces and with SMT OFF.
     
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    Blah blah blah,when lies are about I have no clue what your saying nor read your post but did see what I quoted above.Your full of crap with this part of your post.I have owned plenty of RTX 3xxx and none of them can run magic fairy crap like your post.,
     
  15. Meathelix1

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    You can just Youtube benchmarks of a 3090ti running at 4k with DLSS 2.0 in WZ at 140-160 fps...

    Here did it for you... Put the shadows too high and bam an extra 20 fps.

     
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  16. bobnewels

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    OMG you be joking.
    You said
    Then show some random video,I feel so petty for doing this.

    14 videos of my own PC gameplay but I am not using RTX 3090TI here but you get the point with 12900K 5500Mhz/5400Mhz all core overclock with RTX 3080 or RTx 3090 I forgot really and maybe only 10 games with DLSS.

    Not 1 of the 14 games are over 1oo FPS

    Forza Horizon 5 12900K Overclock 5500Mhz 4K HDR PC Gameplay New RTSS Gauges
    Forza Horizon 5 12900K Overclock 5500Mhz 4K HDR PC Gameplay New RTSS Gauges - YouTube


    Cyberpunk 2077 12900K Overclock 5500Mhz 4K HDR PC Gameplay New RTSS Overlay Gauges
    Cyberpunk 2077 12900K Overclock 5500Mhz 4K HDR PC Gameplay New RTSS Overlay Gauges - YouTube


    Far Cry 6 12900K OverClock 5500Mhz
    Far Cry 6 12900K OverClock 5500Mhz RTSS OSD New Gauges - YouTube


    Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order 4K HDR 12900K Overclock 5500Mhz
    Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order 4K HDR 12900K Overclock 5500Mhz - YouTube


    Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz
    Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz - YouTube


    Marvel's Avengers War For Wakanda 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz
    Marvel's Avengers War For Wakanda 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz - YouTube


    Mirror's Edge Catalyst 4K HDr 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz
    Mirror's Edge Catalyst 4K HDr 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz - YouTube


    Watch Dogs Legion 4K HDR PC Gameplay Ray Tracing 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz
    Watch Dogs Legion 4K HDR PC Gameplay Ray Tracing 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz - YouTube


    Crysis Remastered 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz 4K HDR Can it Run Crysis
    Crysis Remastered 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz 4K HDR Can it Run Crysis - YouTube


    Bright Memory Infinite 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz Ray Tracing 4K HDR
    Bright Memory Infinite 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz Ray Tracing 4K HDR - YouTube


    Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz HDR PC Gameplay Ray Tracing
    Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz HDR PC Gameplay Ray Tracing - YouTube


    Call of Duty Modern Warfare 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz
    Call of Duty Modern Warfare 12900K Overclock - YouTube


    Immortals Fenyx Rising 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz
    Immortals Fenyx Rising 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz - YouTube


    Red Dead Redemption 2 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock 5400Mhz
    Red Dead Redemption 2 4K HDR PC Gameplay 12900K Overclock - YouTube
     
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  17. pegasus1

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    570x Taichi = £320
    5800x3d = £420
    32gb Corsair DDR4 =£100
    Thats a decent gaming set up for little more than the price of just a 7950X.
    Throw in a 6900xt at £750 and current gen looks favourable to next gen if cost/perf/heat/energy are taken into consideration.
     
  18. Meathelix1

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    You don't need to believe me but that video I linked shows that you can get 140+ now in WZ. You are posting crap from 2021... DLSS 2.0 has advanced a lot since then and you are also running a 3080... 4k gaming is for 3090 - 3090 ti. Plenty of videos show it... but I guess all of them are lying as well.. lol PS not going to bother replying to you about as this is a CPU Topic.

    haha, that is nuts, So I guess with a 4090 price from AIB you can get 3 of them?
     
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  19. Valken

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    You don't even NEED the 570x Taichi MB. Some 200 Euros MB will be fine since you cannot OC the 5800X3D. Just get a good MB with good VRM.

    Heck you can probably afford the 4080Ti/4090 Ransom with this setup by drinking water and sipping on air for a few months.
     
  20. pegasus1

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    I used the Taichi as an example as its a good mobo that can do 3 x nVME drives, so you can get a fast robust and flexible system for the money.
     
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