Chatter: NVIDIA RTX 4090, RTX 4080 and RTX 4070 > 16384 cores, 24 GB GDDR6X, up to 2.75 GHz and 450W TGP

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  1. Undying

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    I always use the max uv+oc profile and limit the framerate if needed but honestly i need all the power i can get. :D
     
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    3440x1440 is no joke
    you're looking at about 25% reduction in performance compared to 2560x1440
    so 2080S at 3440x1440 is like 2060S at 2560x1440
    that's a full 104 die vs cut 106, more than one die down when it comes to actual hardware requirements.
     
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    Still much less demanding than 4k. 5m vs 8m pixels.
     
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    2560x1440 to 3440x1440 is a bigger performance hit than 6900xt to 6800, and 3080 to 3070, by a couple percent.
    you need a whole die up to get the same fps, it's demanding.
    also, vram usage for 35% more pixels.
     
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    Doing 8k though, even with dlss i basically dont see any AAA games below 16gb vram usage.

    24gb on the 4090 ought to be fine though, even if cod cold war was just on the edge at 8k.
     
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    8k is 16x 1080p, right ?
    1080p needs 6gb these days. either for native rasterized or rt w. dlss
     
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    25% more pixels. 3.7m vs 5m :)

    DLSS is a life savior.
     
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    i really don't want to lock myself out of the best image reconstruction technique next gen
    even in games that would run fine without it, it's great to have it.

    5 is 35% more than 3,7
    that's why I said a 25% reduction in performance, not a 25% increase from 3440 to 2560
    the increase is 30% or more
     
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  9. Undying

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    Same here. Despite how much i love amd and wanted the 6700xt the dlss has been great and i'd be missing it so much.

    Its one of those features that if i want to play something the first thing i ask is, does it have dlss support? :D
     
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    im not wealthy enough to afford not to have it
     
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    @pegasus1

    Well put!

    As someone who's never cold and sweats profusely whenever the temperature is above 15C I only take issue with your example; it's far easier to put on a coat when you're cold then try and flay oneself when it's too warm. Which is basically always. :p
     
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    Boom! True statement! Coupled with the addiction I have for image and sound quality this beloved hobby keeps the wallet open.

    I'm ready for some true numbers. All these rumors and speculations are starting to annoy me than keep my interest. To contradict myself, I keep checking multiple articles and flippin videos. :p:p:p

    I'll just say this. With all of these huge performance theories and guesses I hope Team Green and Team Red don't disappoint. 40% to 60% in performance does NOT always mean a 40% to 60% in gaming framerate.

    In the words of a famous warrior. "Keep your expectations low that way you will not be disappointed." That's kinda Sithy but whatever! :p:D
     
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    Would be sufficient to have 12gb , sure not 8gb :)

    AMD is kinda new to me , last 10 years or more i was with nvidia ( only card i had from amd was hd7970). Same with CPU, i was with intel since Core2.
     
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    I think you made a good choice going for 6800 instead of 3070.
     
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    I don't think that any of these GPUs should be below 16GB, which is the console baseline.
     
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    Especially because new elder scrolls game coming soon and you know everyone is going to want 24k texture nude mods.
     
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    xsx has 10g
     
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    Of course i did. It is better card , at the time it costed almost the same .
     
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    It doesn't, and that part is mainly used for CPU operations which are simultaneous anyway, since the entire memory subsystem is unified.

    It still means that the GPU on the PC will have to have it in a local copy, and that would be around 16GB minimum if you add overheads

    We're already 1/3rd in the current console generation. This year we'll start getting the first big current-gen only games and a lot of people will start wondering why their six core, 16GB RAM, 12GB GPU PCs with SATA SSDs don't cut it anymore, and will blame developers for "not optimizing".
     
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    Your described requirements are what will be needed for a high or at least decent level experience for the next few years, not something that is required or "won't cut it". Of course "a six core CPU" is a broad statement, but I'd say even R5 3600 will last for quite some time yet if over 100 FPS gaming is not the goal in every title. The thing is today the performance that individual gamers expect varies a lot, since some people have even 360 Hz panels and some still play on 60 Hz ones; resolution also matters a lot and the best possible image quality settings are often worthless, so they should not be the target for estimation.
    You estimate wrong because of assuming that the consoles use all their CPU power for the game itself, but instead they are designed to be able to stream at the same time, having that additional power for different tasks like that. They also have shared memory, VRAM being the only memory available for the CPU also, so they have less total memory. Xbox Series X's GPU is about as strong as RTX 2080 Super.
     

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