NVIDIA: GeForce RTX 3060 Hash rate Limiter is enforced through both driver and BIOS

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    emperorsfist Ancient Guru

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    This is interesting, even if I don't know how to react to Nvidia's solution. I guess we'll see how the card normally performs once the reviews are out. A good point about the mining marked, though. This stuff is really getting silly.
     
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    The sad thing is that it will be hard for Nvidia to go back to reasonable prices. Now that they've seen the demand on their cards from both miners and gamers, the 4xxx series will be $999 and above. No more MSRP $699 of the 3080 ever again. Thats what I fear will be the case.
     
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    JonasBeckman Ancient Guru

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    Yeah just read that, interesting.

    Seems like it's working too going by info about it so far.
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    (Via Reset Era's various NVIDIA and Ampere threads.)

    So if NVIDIA does a full refresh with this for Ampere that's going to be a fairly effective limiter it seems being both software and bios based.
     
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    kapu Ancient Guru

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    So card can't be BIOS moded ?
     
  7. Martin5000

    Martin5000 Master Guru

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    the wrong card.
    this should of happened on the 3080
     
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    Devid Master Guru

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    I recon the all can be.
    It really depends on how nVidia has cooked it out.
    If there will be a new sku then there is a little hope as some of the hw IDs cannot be changed.
    So what I mean by that this could be a little "triangle" like bios+driver+new sku and if any of them not correct or modded than the hashrate is limited.

    I think we will see after RTX 3060 launches.
    If one finds out how to mod to be a good mining card then we are all doomed and this craziness never ends.
     
  9. SeriousSkeletor

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    Any software solution is pointless. Try harder Nvidia...
     
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    Mining craze started in December if I'm right. RTX 30 series launched in mid September. So people had nearly 3 months to buy 30 series products. However, there were nearly none even in that interval and they were already much more expensive than their MSRP. So this may seem a good step, it means nothing to the market.
     

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    Glottiz Ancient Guru

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    3080 launched months before mining craze. General public considered crypto to be dead and non issue until december. Of course company like Nvidia should have known better and should have learned from the past, but they didn't.
    Actually availability in first 3 months was a lot better before miners started buying. Now there is nothing to buy at all. If this mining nerf is effective it will be good for gamers. This won't give results over night but it should give results over upcoming months and in future crypto booms.
     
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    Retailers selling the cards before launch day should be blacklisted and prosecuted for selling them 3 times above MSRP.
     
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    Nvidia do ...bla bla la la ...so what,this "RTX" 3060 is useless in RayTracing games so for Minecraft or CSGo players will be good.
    After they sell hundreds of thousands cards to miners they,Nv Corpo,will do gamers a favour to cripple,a crippled RT card, in mining which will have a doubled start price.Who cares...
    Already miners are good with 3070-3080 cards,so 3060 is no more needed.

    Meanwhile still no new good games are worth a over-priced new card. :)
     
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    asturur Maha Guru

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    My issue is that i do not want to buy a 3060, i want to buy a 3080 or higher, i hope newer revisions will be locked too.
    If is just bios, lock the bios flash do something.
     
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    All those miners bricking their cards with failed flashes.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Scalpers: Let's buy all the GPUS, CPUs and consoles from the retailers, pretend we're retailers providing value, and sell them to gamers at +50% over MSRP or maybe even more!

    Gamers: *buys CPUs, GPUs and consoles at exorbitant prices from scalpers*

    nVidia, Intel, AMD, Sony and Microsoft: Why aren't WE charging this much money?
     
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    Locked bios, limitations from driver, am I the only person who can see where this is going.
    What are Nvidia going to decide I can or cannot do with my GPU next ?
     
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    Just an offtopic comment (or not?)

    I'm truly amazed by how people react so strongly against "scalpers", "miners", etc. that buy a luxury product like a GPU while they have 0 reaction against monopolies that "scalp" their own nations natural resources (oil, fertile land, minerals, etc) and make a fortune reselling them to who are actually their rightful owners (people form/own a nation, nations own natural resources in their territories).
     
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    Imagine rtx3060 at its msrp? oh, the dream.
     
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    Yes, you are the only one, as this doesn't affect your GPU. The article clearly talks about upcoming 3060 and perhaps future cards, not already released cards.

    As for limitations in general, these existed for years. Ever heard of Quadro lineup that have more features than Geforce cards while sharing the same chip?
     
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