NVIDIA releases statement on G-Sync Ultimate HDR specification - disputes mandatory 1000 nits

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    nevcairiel Master Guru

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    1000 nits only ever made sense for classic back-lit LCDs. OLEDs and other future technologies do not need to reach 1000 nits for an even better experience, since they make it up with much better black values.
    Updating the wording to accomodate for that makes total sense, and all this reporting seems rather overblown.

    GSYNC Ultimate was never a "strict" specification anyway, they mentioned certain keywords but no technical criteria for measuring compliance. Its marketing, not a technical specification.

    Ultimately, every monitor should still be judged individually, and not by any badge.
    There are already certifications for HDR performance, as in DisplayHDR 1000 (for LCDs) and DisplayHDR True Black (for OLEDs), one cannot mix these two technologies so easily though.
     
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    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Yeah, but you are still paying for that G-Sync Ultimate badge and certification process, + end-users expect to see what has been listed and communicated for over a year.
     
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    Are those the keystrokes of Hilbert being removed from the Nvidia Media Partners list I hear.
     

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    Thanks Hilbert for the keen observation and follow-up!
     
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    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Don't be silly, of course not.
     
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    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    So basically G-Sync Ultimate is a marketing sticker made to look like Technical Specification. You did better job explaining it than Nvidia. For one this part of their refutation makes little sense:
    because no one claimed that Ultimate was defined by nits ALONE. But was Ultimate defined IN PART by nits? It certainly was as seen on old slides.
    its pcmonitors who broke the story:
    https://twitter.com/pcmonitors/status/1350813574369783816
     
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    Yes, stunning contracts where nvidia makes money for re-branding other (some even open) standards :p
     
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    they expecting a bunch of OLED monitors? cuz otherwise even with miniLED the argument is kinda weak
     
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    You are blowing things out of proportions. I am sure that even people who invested heavily into 1st G-Sync enabled monitors got those extra promised features over time.
     

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    Even when "Specifications subject to change" is not written, "Specifications subject to change" is implied.
     
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    OLED is self-emissive doesn't use backlight or micro led or anything, every diode is both light emitter and a "zone".
    PS. There is ONE oled monitor afaik, released "yesterday" costs a small fortune.
     
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