Alleged Intel Alder Lake CPU photo surfaces online

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    An interesting approach hope this plays out well for Intel maybe even some Xe cores too
     
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    os needs to learn how to choose the right cores
     
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    I seriously doubt that Intel can make PCIe 5 work already. They could not even make PCIe Gen 4 work for 10th Gen CPU´s. The extra pin count is needed for DDR5's high transfer rate. They will probably have at least 350-400 pins per Dimm.
     
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    They will need more space for mixing too many things and different architecture chiplets, including those 8 bigger hotter cores.

    There will be a tremendous change in everything, and I'm afraid I don't wan't to be a beta tester of new DDR 5, PCIE 5, Big Little, etc.

    I'll try to go for the last DDR 4 architecture with Zen 3 and the second generation DDR 5 on mobile with nice drawing screen whatever, maybe when they'll have right prices... :(
     
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    I fail to understand your point.

    First time I learn about this High efficiency + High performance symbiosis for PC. We have it on phones and it's great, if it works correctly.
    As stated before, OS needs to learn when to use what and for what applications. The software side is still so late compared to the hardware, I'm certain Linux will master this much faster than Windows ever will.
    And we need software to improve to see any benefits from this.

    Great to see Intel trying to push new things, next couple years will be interesting for sure!
     
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    A metaphor for more heat.
     
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    I just realized but, I know that a large chunk of these pins are for voltage and ground. The thing is, why not just make those as a big plate, instead of a pin? I imagine that would help make things simpler, cheaper, and more reliable. It would also be pretty much impossible to mistake the direction the CPU should be installed.
     
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    The idea that PCI-E 4 is only for GPUs is a really dumb take, even for you.
     

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    Most of the extra pins are for additional power/ground capacity. Only small portion is dedicated for the I/O signal overhead.
     
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    I wish Intel would have logical names for their cpu like core 1st gen, core 2n gen, core 3rd gen and so on instead of rocket lake, magical lake, fairy lake, i don't know wtf this lake is anymore ...
     
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    So they are finally preparing to move to a smaller fab process but CPU is getting bigger.
    Kind of irony.
     
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    Sad thing about this statement is Intel skipped it and their mobos still seem to have a premium in the majority of cases where as u have the option to take it or leave it with AMD.

    As for this little big design I really want to see how this is going to be leveraged I can see mobile benefiting from it but I fail to see a real use for it for the vast majority of desktops. Just seems like it will fill some kind of a niche.
     
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    I agree, it's annoying. I've still stuck with Intel, mostly for gaming performance and familiarity, but its things like this that keep stacking up against them. When single threaded performance is worse, and multi-threaded, and the cost is higher, etc it will become really hard to stomach sticking with them.
     

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    Different size probably need new heatsink.

    So if you are on gen 10, you will have to change everything. Just a year after.

    Or stay on amd.
     
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    PCI-E 4 is not just for GPU, but any component you can connect to PCI slots even the new NVME generations that have speeds of 5000mb/s
     
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    Why would you stick with them? They aren't your local football team or anything like that.

    I've got both Intel and AMD systems depending on the use case or what's lying around.

    It's a sad fact that my Xeon 1680v2 is equal to any Ryzen 1st gen CPU in single core perf. It's taken Ryzen 3000 to catch Intel in single core and now Ryzen 5000 is going to take the lead. It's just hardware, having a tribal attitude towards it won't benefit you and your use case.
     
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    Because I said "when", I will still take my 10700K over any other currently available AMD chip for my primary workload with this system -- gaming.
     
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    I had to stay with intel because its price.

    On some countries 3300x is impossible to find or way overpriced. Similar for 3600. Also can buy cheaper and more featured motherboards (sadly crippled by intel, but still)

    Everyone want amd now. And prices are reflecting that.
     
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