AMD Ryzen 5000 ZEN3 based APU already spotted (Cezanne)

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    cryohellinc Ancient Guru

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    Seems like a great APU. I really look forward to business laptops (Dell XPS 13 for example) with one of those. I think intel 4c/8t versions have to go.
     
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    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    6.4GB of DDR3? That looks pretty strange and suspicious.
     
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    I hate AMD APU naming. Just make it Ryzen 9000 series already
     
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    Not quite so.
    Normally an APU would reserve 2 GB of RAM from the total amount.
    So, maybe a glitch for a 8 GB system rendered that result.
    But I may be wrong.
     
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    buhehe Master Guru

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    It really annoys me how Ryzen gens got out of sync with CPU names so quickly:
    • Ryzen 1 => 1700X
    • Ryzen + => 2700X
    • Ryzen 2 => 3700X
     
  7. FrostNixon

    FrostNixon Master Guru

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    They should have just named ryzen+ zen 2 and be done with that.
     
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    Silva Ancient Guru

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    Bothers me to think why didn't they do with 1750X for Zen+, maybe to avoid stupid people mixing the two.
    I wasn't a new arch, so it had no business being Zen 2. People would be mad there were small gains if they did that and everyone would shout AMD would never beat intel.
     
  9. D1stRU3T0R

    D1stRU3T0R Master Guru

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    • Zen 1 => 1XXXX / 2X00G
    • Zen + => 2x00X / 3XX0G
    • Zen 2 => 3x00X / 4XXXG
    • Zen 3 => 4XXXX / 5XXXG

    From Zen 1 being 1xxxX (which is logic), we got to Zen3 being 5xxxG. Very derrutant even for classic users, they will think that 4000G series is as good as Zen2 4000X series :(
    AyyMD
     
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    Still waiting for APU's to hit above 1000 shaders with a 2GHz GPU clockspeed...... Bring it AMD...
     

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    Amd graphics group reduced to an apu. Intel and amd will fight who have shitiest igpu while nvidia is making titans.
     
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    I think this has been covered and explained many times.
    for people that do not care to look at product numbers and technology behind it, the zen 2 4xxxG is probably as good as zen 3 4xxxX, 15% difference or what it will be for the average user may means nothing. While not having to buy a videocard to run your PC may mean something.
     
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    9001 at a minimum......
     
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    That would explain the amount, yes, but what is DDR3, three, doing there? Even the first Ryzen was already a DDR4 CPU.
     

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    Yeah something is up. I'm dismissing this as fake.
     
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    It says DDR3 but the memory throughput is around 22Gbps for which u need a freq of more or less 2800Mhz, was ddr3 even capable of that?

    I agree with the silly naming for apus... otoh regular customers don't really know the "zen" part so there's only 1 number to look at for them.
     
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    Why? 4c/8t is plenty good enough for the average business use. Adding more cores would just make it more power hungry with little to no day-to-day improvement.

    I would argue Zen+ was improved enough to be considered a 2nd-gen product. There was more of an architectural improvement going from Zen to Zen+ than Intel has had going from Skylake to Comet Lake, if you ignore AVX 512 anyway (which I don't think Comet Lake even has). Zen2 was a major improvement though, and it sounds like Zen3 is too.
     
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    Sure, however, in my case I'd love a tiny bit more performance in that size format. 8c/8t would be great already - 8c/16t would be ideal. Point is Zen is consuming less power, so theoretically, 8c/8t should be on par with Intels 4c/8t (correct me if I'm wrong there).

    Or perhaps some hybrid mode where on battery it turns off parts of the CPU.
     
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    DDR3 record was 4620(cl14), and yes, 2800MHz could be achivable very easly on latest RAM modules
     

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