Crap - true - kinda hit a double whammy on accident there' Must of been a bad day here when that tanker went down in the gulf of Mexico..
I'm in the cautious camp. There is nowhere near enough research, primarily because our countries want to be at the leading edge of growing economies, we have to have it if there are no immediate known issues. $ speak loudest.
Yes I did. Every thing I stated was an objective fact. You did not argue a single one. You did not argue the scientific process you made claims about unrelated items. Holy cow, at least try.
I was addressing his post and providing more proof your hero Trump, is a moron. Trump is a lying traitorous woman abusing draft evading coward. Care to dispute any of those as not being supported by fact? Why anyone supports such an obvious POS, is beyond me. Perhaps you should stop replying to my posts. They trigger in you a whiny pathetic screeching noise.
What i cited was prior claims of safety made being false in hindsight. Humans are so good at ignoring the unknown till its killing a hundred thousand people a year. The worst of them being the Highly educated with phd's and doctorates that should know better by observation of history.
Oh okay, we've got a real dumbass. Disregard what he says I suppose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_and_autism
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyw...an-autism-tempest-in-a-trashcan/#42844f195396 Wikipedia is not a a permitted source by any education authority. Suffice to say, a "credible" former cdc employer has said it, and no study has been done to back those who are saying he is wrong. Science is an absolute mess in this century because nobody is testing their own claims.
From your very link. " Recent analyses of the data—which seem to have survived the garbage can—do not suggest this conclusion. As Jim Frost, the statistician who evaluated the 2004 paper and reanalyzed the data in the above links, noted: PROMOTED The criticism that the study discarded data from African American subjects just doesn’t hold water. No data was discarded. For the subjects who were linked to birth certificates, the researchers performed additional analyses. In this light, I see a careful observational study that assessed the role of potential confounders." Reading comprehension is really hard I know.
Reading between the lines is difficult in this generation, but some of us are still capable of it. In the era of corporate science the only person you can trust is yourself to educate yourself on and how and to do the analysis of the data made available. Everything is safe until its proven not is a dangerous paradigm.
I know this strategy. Not best one if you ask me. But for those who did not realize it... When person makes multiple statements, opponent finds one which may be (or is) incorrect. And then attempts to make all of them look wrong, just because this person is not 100% accurate. Well, guess what? Nobody is 100% accurate. And those who use this strategy are more often than not wrong themselves. (Like @CalculuS is wrong with remaining 2 cases which he wants you to ignore too.) - - - - Now to that @Astyanax 's post: He could have easily add 10~20 additional examples instead of that one which is likely incorrect. But isn't idea behind all of them same? Isn't it meant to tell you that money almost always win? And that people down on the ground are of no importance to those who control the flow of money? "10 years you are testing product is 10 years you are not making money from it." That's why you get that half-assed study that ends with: "We gave Rat cancer. But do not worry, because we used unrealistic scenario. And You are not Rat, are you?" (Then what was that study worth to humans? And who in their right mind would feel safer after reading that?) - - - - As for vaccination. It is important. Optimally side effects should be as small as possible. Like TDAP vaccine which may result in lasting damage it is supposed to prevent. (That's what paper in the box tells you.) But it is important, because in comparison to state w/o it, we have like 10000 fewer cases.
hahaha omg Airbud don't kill me for laughing at this serious burrrnnnn - almost as burnt as the President's face... christ the draft dodging part makes my body ache every time I hear it *ugh... not like any of us post 9/11 vets really had a draft but it still annoys the hell out of me.. EDIT: I'm not trying to claim you're a "whiner" that banter just made me lol... I mean, hell Hemi is on point who the hell parades their porn escapades in front of the country for the first lady to see. Hell he probably made Bill Clinton jealous... Nice - I'll just click on single wikipedia links now and quantify my intelligence to that *snark If you seriously think our government has been an open and transparent authority on health and safety you're the real dumbass. That was the point @Astyanax was making - that the US government has witheld information, obscured facts, injured those sworn & scarified to protect it. Don't be naive. No system is perfect, they've all as fallible or infallible as the people they're made up of. In general - pragmatism dictates independent bodies study a new situation with the general public concerned where consent is not an option; generally the government having no conflict of interest. If health being the concern - it may take over 20 years for signs to show in cases. I believe I posted some articles showing to the contrary due to the basis on the spectrum of exposure - the level. Although - from a purely hypothetical standpoint since the consent of the public is not given and not allowed one would hope and presume - That since the technology has not been implemented for what over a decade or so? Networking standards utilizing Telecom-grade 5G "technically" have what been around 14/15 years with development originating at NASA and other partners... so ... a "Health study" is... difficult to quantify at best.. you need a sample size etc - exposure...
My disgust with Trump isn't about politics. As a pre 9/11 retired vet, Trump's insults to vets and his new newest 'Trumps Bonespur Injury' AKA TBI or for those who were not chickenshit cowards, Traumatic Brain Injury...well they are just headaches and he had a hangnail, right? Weird, as I consider folks like you who deny the objective fact of what a POS Trump is, to be victims of something like the Stockholm Syndrome. That's the only way I can explain your willful support of such an obviously corrupt lying cowardly draft evading woman abusing POS. You didn't deny every single one of those being true. Here's what you could do: Pretend you actually do have just a sliver of Airbud in you, stand on your hind legs, and rebuke Trump. Nah...you'll just keep on yapping.
Hmmph - I need to read the news more I... *weird* totally missed the damn hangnail part hah assuming that's just good ole' fashioned dry humor. I mean - heck having your brain throttled around in your skull a bunch of times from impact blasts isn't fun - the Iran strike I believe that was in reference to. Been under twice for TN - I get the reactions of people I suppose. When I was diagnosed for nerve damage (in the face); I was told afterwards it is often misdiagnosed for headaches - fun fact. This will probably all blow over soon enough, eventually people stop biting the hand that feeds them... I hope. EDIT: reg. the politics; so be it. My grandmother would throttle me if I treated a woman certain ways..
gonna be a rough 5 more years for you Hemi I figure When Donald Trump Jr wins in 2024 you'll be in a psych ward somewhere.
I .. always chuckle and this comment is in good fun not to bring about angst - but I always chuckle how he's already had a freaking heart attack and it's just in the campaign stages at this point for the guy' *shakes head.... I ... ugh... I'd say is health a factor but... that just seems so subjective now don't it LOL? I remember reading an article way back in the day about broken heart syndrome shortly after Trump's win in 2016 (for Dems - obviously) and would think of that picture like "well if it had a face.... " Hmm ... that'd probably be one of them ...
Trump will win it again, I'm certain. Did anyone catch this Tweet from Trump - https://twitter.com/i/status/1225174713992990721 Perhaps stay on topic though since this is heading for closed thread.
