Google To End Cooperation With Huawei

I'm still googling it but I found something similar happened to ZTE an it was lifted

 

Yes I remeber that happening as well, but it wasn't nearly as big I think? This is mainly a 5G issue after all I guess, that they don't want Huawei stuff in 5G networks all around the globe.

 

yea I just found that out...sounds like they got a big jump on 5G technology

 

Turns out that US forgot it still uses lots of Huawei kit in it's infrastructure and rural America would grind to a halt with a full ban...

 

Definitively? Unknown. I am not smart enough to comb through internet shenanigans, but I did read this article that looks well researched and was an interesting read. https://thediplomat.com/2018/12/the-impact-of-chinese-espionage-on-the-united-states/

 

Thanks for the link, will have to read. Only that I want to say, it's hard to trust any narrative when it's biased by talking to high US officials... what should they tell you besides that it's bad...

 

That's the definition of irony you telling someone they have no clue about the big picture LOL.

 

Wonder what will happen when China bans US tech to their market in response - sell sell sell!

 

They do not work for the right mentally ill man...

 

I have a hard time understanding how this ban is a good thing for the US. If Huawei is a spying threat, wouldn't it make more sense to force them to use software from US companies for their devices? At least that way, Google can keep track of usage and activity to detect any foul play. I would think that forcing Huawei to use their own OS or services would be the last thing you'd want, as it means there would be no way to monitor their devices (after all, Huawei phones are sold in Canada, just across the border).

As the saying goes, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Of course that's assuming that spying is the real issue. I'm guessing that this may just be a show of superiority, to deny Chinese companies access to US technology.

 

There's only so much you can do in software to fix hardware threats, especially hardware that taps into your data stream (of course, that's assuming Huawei is even doing such a thing).

There is of course a more political reason why, to some, banning Huawei is a good thing (a reason I for one don't agree with) but I'm not going to get into that.

 

Well, it's not just software - using hardware from US companies could also help reduce the risks. Most phones receive a teardown from iFixit anyways, which could reveal any potentially suspicious hardware. IMO, the more we know, the better off we will be.

At any rate, I don't think national security is really the end-goal here. China is the new economic superpower and companies like Huawei are displacing established American companies like Apple (they've already surpassed them in global smartphone sales). I think Trump and his allies want to stem Chinese growth and influence (part of Make America Great Again ).

 

The entire thing is political the hardware side of things is nothing more than a front.

 

Oh dont get me wrong, majority of them have done some messed up crap. Trump, though is like straight up in your face doesn't give a crap bare faced liar....

Yet people can actually see it, they can hear it, they have the tools to fact check and yet they just sit back and accept every word he says.

 

Wow!....if I could only say what I really think about your post without risking my membership here...

 

People hear what they want to hear, not what they actually need or should. It's been like this since... forever. Same poison, different flavor.

 

True^.....and the opinion of "what they actually need or should hear" is an opinion in itself.

different opinions create debate....who's right who's wrong in the thought process?

holding a definite bias that cannot be changed "much like a fanboy" cannot be fixed mentally.

haters gonna hate.

 

"holding a definite bias that cannot be changed "much like a fanboy" cannot be fixed mentally." Read that back to yourself slowly and see if it doesn't sound weirdly familiar.

 

it can be changed with help....but then again that would be from a different opinion "said person" disagreed with.
Opinion = "a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

I hold my opinion you hold yours with respect for both of us.

 

Whether Huawei phones are compromised with hidden spy tech or not, but using a phone from a company that is backed by the country's government does not give me much confidence. Especially coming from a government from this particular country.