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The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling

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malitze said: ↑

It was the 5704 beta, but the problem was not the bios itself but using the EZUpdate software. Updating via bios or flashback worked fine. Normally I would stay away from flashing in windows but wanted to see if the AI Suite is worth something. Uninstalled it right after...
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Thank you for the info. Now we know the EZUpdate software utility for flashing Bios inside windows does not work correctly and is buggy , i will write a warning on the first page so people knows. Best safer practice it's to always flash your new bios via Bios using Asus EZ flash utility and a thumb flash drive ,or Asus flashback utility using a thumb flash drive. Thanks for the heads up.

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planning to pick up a 1700 sometime in the next couple months, got some plans for a custom cooling solution, all i will say is that it will involve a few of these
https://www.amazon.com/Original-Del...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JS1WSJX9M1F7WHS5FGG6

should be interesting.:bigsmile:
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Careful with those high cfm delta fans , i ended it up in a hospital one time because of it , it cut my finger all the way down to the bone and have my finger stitch with 8 points. I have a box full of them and i only use them when i'm doing extreme overclocking. It is not recommended for daily usage beware they are very dangerous.

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Not sure if this belongs here but, my original plan was to get 8core, but i kinda changed my mind, and just go with 6core when they come.

Maybe the 6core has better oc potential, maybe not. I really don´t need 8cores for my usage, and would just save some cash by going to 6core.

But that all is decided when they come out, and we get real reviews.

Mostly i just game, and sure, my old I7 is working just great, but i still want to upgrade. So, i suppose even the 6core would serve just well.

Any opinions?
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In my opinion just get the cheapest 8 core 16 thread Ryzen cpu 1700 now instead of waiting , for future proffness 8c 16t it's the sweet spot if you do not like to upgrade regularly , should last you for many years to come.

*** Updates for today March 6, 2017 *** - Added new Bios released - Added a warning for Asus Crosshair VI hero not to use the EZUpdate software utility for flashing Bios inside windows does not work correctly and is buggy , might brick your board - Working currently in the Overclocking guide

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chispy, Mar 6, 2017

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G.skill's Flare X and Fortis memory and some rambling on Ryzen RAM compatibility

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OnnA, Mar 6, 2017

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everyone should have a bootable jump drive these days, & asus flash utility works great. ive flashed my gpu with a windows based utility a few times, but i only risked it cos of dual BIOS. its not a smart practice in general

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Careful with those high cfm delta fans , i ended it up in a hospital one time because of it
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hahahaha chispy youre supposed to use metal fan grilles with those

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So my board finally decided to brick in the end like it did for many others. Tbh I would stay away from it at least for now.

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So my board finally decided to brick in the end like it did for many others. Tbh I would stay away from it at least for now.
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Go with MSI (first) or Gigabyte (second), heck even Asrock looks to behave better! I'm shore ASUS is a very neat build (hardware wise) but the software department is a joke!

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Go with MSI (first) or Gigabyte (second), heck even Asrock looks to behave better! I'm shore ASUS is a very neat build (hardware wise) but the software department is a joke!
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Always used ASRock before so it's probably going to be one of theirs or I'll try Gigabyte. Kinda depends on the availability.

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Always used ASRock before so it's probably going to be one of theirs or I'll try Gigabyte. Kinda depends on the availability.
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Looking at the same two boards, waiting for availability.

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Darkiee said: ↑

Not sure if this belongs here but, my original plan was to get 8core, but i kinda changed my mind, and just go with 6core when they come.

Maybe the 6core has better oc potential, maybe not. I really don´t need 8cores for my usage, and would just save some cash by going to 6core.

But that all is decided when they come out, and we get real reviews.

Mostly i just game, and sure, my old I7 is working just great, but i still want to upgrade. So, i suppose even the 6core would serve just well.

Any opinions?
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Wait for reviews of 6 core and 4 core Ryzen before you buy - I think I've read reviews of 8 core Ryzen not really being any faster and sometimes slower than overclocked i7-2600K@4.5Ghz for gaming.

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Ryzen - The Tech Press Loses The Plot

OnnA, Mar 6, 2017

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For those who might be interested on using Ryzen with W7 or 8:

i´ve just been in an online support chat from Microsoft where i asked if there was any kind of problem with installing W7 on a Ryzen system with an Asus board and the answer was that there´s no problem because Ryzen is supported on W7, like the Asus Crosshair 6 Hero, and should work without any problem. Very different from their official stance...

For me this is good news because i want to continue to use W7 and i´m considering a 1700.

Don´t know if anyone here is running W7/8.1 with Ryzen can confirm this.

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OnnA said: ↑

Ryzen - The Tech Press Loses The Plot

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The whole video makes zero sense. I do love his strong Scottish accent though.

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The priority settings in this tweak are wrong, apparently the original person put it as '1' not knowing any better and that has followed through numerous posts and articles regarding this tweak.

Refer to the following:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms684247(v=vs.85).aspx

and:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms684828(v=vs.85).aspx

and also:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms685100(v=vs.85).aspx
(regarding priotity classes and what/how 'high' helps.

Using the classes as 'High' is what gives the boost, because if the priority in numbers is now effective, a setting lower than the priority class is ignored.
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For further gain (may or may not be useful).

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management] "SystemPages"=dword:FFFFFFFF "PagedPoolSize"=dword:FFFFFF [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\Games] "GPU Priority"=dword:00000008 "Priority"=dword:00000006 "Scheduling Category"="High" "SFIO Priority"="High"

Unlikely to make any difference, but interesting to try:
Open regedit and navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems

Double click on Windows and you will likely see something like:
%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,20480,768 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=sxssrv,4 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16

Carefully change the 1024,20480,768 to 2048,24576,2048
and change the MaxRequestThreads to 32. 16 is the default value for any system.
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Are those, specifically memory and gaming tweaks good for me too? Poolsize, etc..

This is how I have it atm, I remember tweaking this once..
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Finally Ryzen has arrived and in my hands , i will be doing 2 different builts with Ryzen cpus one for me and one for my wife.

My Stuff is here finally:

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Nice one chispy. Have fun building, hope it goes smoothly.

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For those who might be interested on using Ryzen with W7 or 8:

i´ve just been in an online support chat from Microsoft where i asked if there was any kind of problem with installing W7 on a Ryzen system with an Asus board and the answer was that there´s no problem because Ryzen is supported on W7, like the Asus Crosshair 6 Hero, and should work without any problem. Very different from their official stance...

For me this is good news because i want to continue to use W7 and i´m considering a 1700.

Don´t know if anyone here is running W7/8.1 with Ryzen can confirm this.
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Ya I mentioned it earlier in thread, but Win7 works but you have to slipstream USB drivers for windows install & Win8.1 supports natively.

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Finally Ryzen has arrived and in my hands , i will be doing 2 different builts with Ryzen cpus one for me and one for my wife.

My Stuff is here finally:

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THUMB UP :thumbup: that will run flowless, if not...we're here!!!

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Are those, specifically memory and gaming tweaks good for me too? Poolsize, etc..

This is how I have it atm, I remember tweaking this once..

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SessionPools size = 6/8
SessionViewSize = 48/64

Pick the right one :nerd:

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ASUS CH VI RAM Tweaks on gSkill Trident 3600

I will be ready to install new WinX thursday/friday

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This is pretty interesting. 1700 oc performance is basically equal to 1800x oc.

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Anyone running a Noctua nh-d15 with a Ryzen? How are the temps?
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All I can do at the moment is look at the cooler; huge beast. The psu arrived today. The cpu will be here tomorrow. The board...still waiting. Will look at ram once the board ships. Am in limbo he||.

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