HBAO+ Compatibility Flags Thread

People when you are saying a flag doesn't work with FO4 and others are. It's worth noting to say what resolution/AR you are using.

 

Worked for me, but cause of the bleeding i reverted back to the horrible in-game SSAO.

Didn't even had that issue that it flickered on or off on angles.

 

Screenshot comparisons, full ingame settings and .ini tweaks and so on.
Otherwise this discussion is pointless.

 

Just 1080p, but what do you mean by AR?

 

Added some info + screenshots to my earlier post, might as well put it here as well:

GTX770, 358.91 drivers, 1920x1080, Windows 7 64-bit.
All settings on Ultra except motion blur, FoV 100, no other .ini tweaks.

Sorry for the aliasing (testing if TAA was breaking HBAO+, it wasn't) and FRAPS counter:

No AO: http://i.imgur.com/FrGNfpP.jpg (using LotF flag, but broken angle)
0x00140000 (Lords of the Fallen): http://i.imgur.com/r3KVFHG.jpg (working angle)

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EDIT: Tested more areas - seems to work pretty reliably outside Vault 111, but fog/water bleed-through is worse than I originally thought.
More screenshots:

0x00140000 water bleeding: http://i.imgur.com/5lX5v8l.png

A set of comparison pics:

No AO: http://i.imgur.com/fPssWJG.jpg
In-game SSAO: http://i.imgur.com/6QD0TyQ.jpg
0x00140000 HBAO+: http://i.imgur.com/gAf5ID0.jpg
SSAO and 0x00140000 HBAO+: http://i.imgur.com/XGhpSzs.jpg

Aspect Ratio

 

0x00060000 also appears to work for Fallout 4. I have Nvidia AA set to override in addition to an injected shader, so I haven't tested on default settings, yet.

 

I MADE THIS FOR U

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/150287

but its a nice flag it add a lot for this rather bland looking game

as u can see hbao is on everything body itd it bleed fog/water flicked when u load into starting vault

 

FO4 seems a mess on all fronts.

 

- no decent AA implementation
- terrible SSAO
- no official SLI support
- no proper multi-monitor or 21:9 support

And the list goes on and on.
What a disappointment IMO.

 

I have a 21:9 monitor (LG 29EA93) and I don't even get a list of resolutions to choose from in the pulldown list under Options. I have to manually edit the .ini files. I've had to do this in every Bethesda game. They really need to get with the times.

 

the metal gear V flag works

0x00180000

it flickers

 

The best TXAA we got in a while tbh.

 

TAA is not TXAA.

 

Is there any explanation for TAA vs TXAA? Did anybody from Bethesda clarify their TAA implementation? I'm trying to find more info on this, and I don't see much.

 

TXAA is Nvidia's algorithm/method of Temporal AA, plus it goes for the 'cinematic' look meaning like how they do movie visuals - no fine grain details, high and low frequency details are brought to an average value where none of them will particularly 'catch' your attention. This is my understanding atleast.

Not sure what kind of TAA FO4 is using but I've been seeing TAA in quite a few games recently, Rainbow 6 had it too and Battlefront.

And there's also SMAA with temporal filter that a few games have used, most recently Black Ops 3.

 

TXAA uses temporal accumulation over MSAA, you need to have MSAA operational in a game to be able to even implement TXAA. It's somewhat reminiscent of MFAA in this regard as this one is running on top of MSAA as well.

TAA uses temporal accumulation without MSAA and as such is prone to produce more blurring / ghosting than TXAA does and the overall AA is usually worse as well.

I don't know the details of TAA implementation in FO4 but I doubt that it's much different from SMAA T2x mode.

 

Thanks for the info, I didn't know the specifics about TXAA as temporal+MSAA.

I don't know why Bethesda didn't add TXAA as an option as well, but maybe they didn't want to play favorites.

 

AFAIK, the engine doesn't support MSAA, which is needed for TXAA.

 

Actually their TAA is almost the same of what we would expect from MSAAx2+TXAA and a bit better/stronger due to the fact that when moving shimmering/aliasing of objects is pretty much covered and antialiased. (they use a smoothly blur,like a temporal filter yet strong enough to do the job without too much losing any detail). Good thing is that it's cheap on perormance too.

 

Does it have to be MSAA to be decent? F4's temporal AA is very decent on my system - no ghosting, no artefacts, far better coverage than FXAA, and even properly covers specular effects.

I'm also getting on/off bugs with the LOTF flag. Wish they'd included HBAO properly...