AMD - We're Putting Finishing Touches on 300 Series

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  1. Redemption80

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    I honestly don't think it's going to be as fast as people think.

    It makes little sense to release something alot faster when they could do one card that's a slightly faster than release a refresh when Nvidia has an answer.

    The leaks if true also point to a card that is priced at something Nvidia would release, which i don't think would sit well with a lot of AMD users.
     
  2. sykozis

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    Depends on which rumor you believe..... One rumor says R9 380X is coming first, which would suggest that these "leaks" are showing R9 380X performance. If that's the case, then AMD would still have something faster to release. Personally, I'd prefer to wait and see what really happens instead of speculating....
     
  3. -Tj-

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    Well its that proper next-gen high-end of course it will be fast, just like GF110, GK104 vs GK110 fast.. 7970 vs 290x

    Same now GK110, GM204 vs GM200 and 290X vs 380/390X.


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    btw that 8400X is not something huge vs current ~5200X (~12-18fps difference).. :)
     
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  4. Fender178

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    The one thing that I am most curious about is will the r9 390x be the only card to have the hybrid cooler that the r9 295x2 has or will the r9 380x will get it as well.
     

  5. GhostXL

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    Wow you people need to stop. ONE card has a slower section of Vram from ONE series by Nvidia EVER, and you act like they did it to spite you and make your life miserable. Seriously....enough of it.

    I repeat NOT a fanboy....

    I have owned.

    HD 3870 Xfire
    HD 4870 X2
    HD 5870
    HD 7970 Xfire
     
  6. thatguy91

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    The real question is the price, and the validity of the current rumours.

    Is the R9-290X replacement really the R9-380X? Considering it has HBM, how much will it cost? It sounds as though the R9-370X is the true replacement for the R9-280X. If this is the case, the dropped the numbers slightly possibly to make way for more high end cards later. R9-390/390X, 395 etc anyone? ;)

    So, does the R9-370X also get HBM? Be nice if it did, but doubt it. If it is using a highly updated R9-290X, which is sounds like it might be, how much will it be? It sounds like it might be kind of like HD 7970 GHz edition --> R9-280X kind of update, but it also sounds like it might be slightly more updated than that change.

    In any case, I'm looking forward to the new cards. I just hope the pricing is reasonable!
     
  7. Neo Cyrus

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    If those leaks are not BS then I would expect it to be the data of a 390X, not a 380X. nVidia and AMD have been playing this game (they have an agreement and we all know it) forever. One will release something a little bit more powerful than the other, the other waits and does the same, then the cycle repeats until a wrench is thrown in to bend over customers harder when they feel like it (Titan @ $1K then bloated prices follow).

    I just hope the 390X is released at a non-insane price sometime soon. A 1.7GHz Intel HD 4600 iGPU is only enough for LoL and nothing more.

    That and no more thermal or TDP throttling, AMD pls. No more power bills large enough to feed an African village for a year.
     
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  8. Fox2232

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    There are some high performance big chips on 20nm already.
    My guess is: r9-380x is 20/28nm in 2 months here, price will be acceptable for card with such performance (nV would ask 2x as high price)
    Then once 14nm FF is ready: r9-390x comes, and I would not expect some low price either.
     
  9. yasamoka

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    550Ti, 660, 660Ti, and now 970 all have an "asymmetrical" memory design, shall we say. The first 3 had a mismatch between memory capacity and the memory bus width itself, 2GB on 192-bit bus in the case of the 660(Ti), meaning that in that case 1/4 of the memory was 3 times slower than the rest of the card.

    Only Nvidia has pulled this off, and only just recently. Shady hardware practice is Nvidia's specialty these days, regardless of whether the "black box" works properly or not.
     
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    What 20nm chips? There wont be any 20nm for discrete gpus, you can count on that.
     

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    AMD Prius :D
     
  13. sykozis

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    You missed the GTX460 768mb.... It was the card that started the "asymmetrical" memory design crap.
     
  14. Anarion

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    768MB model is not asymmetric. There is a 1GB model (GTX 460 v2 1GB) with 192bit bus which is.
     
  15. Loophole35

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    Your only on that iGPU because you had a severe knee-jerk-reaction to the 970 "memory bug" to which you admittedly had no issue so you sent it back for a 290x from powercolor and we all witnessed that adventure. Most advised you to keep the 970.
     

  16. ivymike10mt

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    Lets leave rumors on side..
    ATI even nt answer on gtx980. Its like they give up this time. So nt good compare this both in that aspect.. coz gtx980 relase half year ago.
    We don't even know when new ATI come...
    And even lowest pice.. will nt make that ppl will buy 290x so easy.
    Beacause.. New ATI upcomming realase rumors. Second coz power effciency and heat. still there exist - as negative ofcoz.

    As far 295x2 is loud and hot.. that all know. Can have 100+*C on power section. Mostly loud coils. and no fan regulation in most models.
    So work culture is highly questionable - in that case.
    But its powerfull beast.. thats most entusiast love for sure.
     
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  17. Rich_Guy

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    Rofl :D
     
  18. yasamoka

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    Yes, that was well-played by Nvidia.

    GTX460 1GB (4 x 256MB) has 256-bit (4 x 64-bit) bus, symmetrical memory design.

    GTX460 768MB (3 x 256MB) has 192-bit (3 x 64-bit) bus, symmetrical memory design.

    GTX460 v2 1GB (4 x 256MB) has 192-bit (3 x 64-bit) bus with higher memory clock, asymmetrical memory design.

    This is silly. 256MB out of the 1GB in that 460 v2 are 1/3 the speed of the rest. I would be interested in people comparing performance across all three cards when clocked at memory speeds such that they all match and see how they compare using some older titles and some newer ones at reduced, playable settings. We might get interesting data.

    Well, at least it's good the 970 only has 1/8 of its memory at 1/7 the speed.
     
  19. SpecChum

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    Assuming the 380x is all that and a bag o' chips, I'm very tempted to upgrade my 970.

    Bugger all to do with "Marketing gaffs" or anything, I'm not jumping on that bandwagon.
     
  20. Fox2232

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    care to share source of noise, heat and coil whine? As far as our members say (and I take their word as owners over yours), It is best cooling solution out there for 300W card.
    Under load it goes up to 73C.
     

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