8GB RAM with NO PAGEFILE CLUB or TOPIC (lol)

Thanks for the info bud, your always a great help:banana: btw have you tried the win tech preview 9860? head and showers the best os i ever used.i have 12 gig of ram so all should be awasome.



thanks again for for help!

 

There is registry tweaks too that enabled crash dumps with out a page file too, but i never tried cause it been so long since i had bsod i never tried

But what update you referring to and which os it apply too?

 

Deleted because it will just cause problems..

 

I tried this yesterday, i have 8gb ram. But today i had google chrome open with about 4 tabs also utorrent just seeding. I then started playing Euro truck simulator 2,and about 30 mins into the game i got the error message saying close the game not enough memory it happened twice.

So do i have to close all other apps when running a game or am i missing something here. In task manager there is 80+ processes running. Just looked now and my memory usage is about 2.78gb.

 

Commit amount is what matters.

 

Sorry Pill i don't understand your answer.

 

Your Commit amount. it's above the Resource Monitor button. Yes you're running out of memory but with 4 Torrents and a game running that's not surprising.

Torrents can use quite a bit.

 

Yes i understand i am running to many programmes. I still cannot see the commit amount i must be blind or something.

 

Thanks for that pill. I will try it again tomorrow and wont have anything else running while i'm gaming.

 

Happy to.

Not yet, but it's at the top of my list. Been negotiating a new contract plus we're halfway through selling our house....so haven't had time.

No prob..

 

You still don't understand the subject. That are two different things: The virtual address space and the physical address space. You see them as one thing.

Don't talk trash about people when you don't know the stuff

 

Srew this club, ima start 16gb no pagefile club thread.

 

Oh, you again.

So this is wrong?

32bit processor.
4GB Virtual Memory limit.
4GB Physical Memory limit.

Note "32bit processor" which is all early Intel. AMD from K8 are x86-64.

 

bvhj

 

They are different. The 32bit architecture is limited to a 4GB virtual address space. The physical address space can be much bigger. What don't you understand?

 

I really don't have time for this. People are coming over for dinner.

32bit processors
OS is limited to 4GB PHYSICAL memory. 4GB VIRTUAL memory. OS will see 4GB.

x86-64bit processors
OS can address well over 4GB PHYSICAL and VIRTUAL memory

x86-64bit processors installed in CHIPSETS limited to 4GB PHYSICAL without remapping support:
OS can address well above 4GB total VIRTUAL memory. But the CHIPSET is limited to 4GB PHYSICAL.
Less than 4GB INSTALLED will be available because the motherboard can't map devices above 4GB physical during POST, it has to map BELOW. This means it reserves ram the OS would normally have access to.

x86-64 processors installed on chipsets NOT limited to 4GB with remapping.
At least 4GB RAM is available to OS.

How much clearer can I make this?

And when you tell someone they're wrong or they don't understand something, please point out exactly what you mean..
Generalizing "you don't understand the difference" without specifics is a lame strawman argument.....

 

32bit processors have been able to address much more than 4GB physical ram long before the 64bit extension was invented.

On x86-64, a 32bit OS is still limited to 4GB virtual address space.

On both legacy x86 and x86-64, the physical address space is implementation specific. In the past, it was 64GB. On modern cpus, it is way bigger than that.

You are being silly.

 

To address the thing about the chipset: Yes, there exist old hardware that cannot address above 4GB outside the cpu. In such a system, you are limited, of course. But that was not my point. The point was your quote:

From there on, you rambled on about the physical address space. Two different things.

To add a bit: You are talking about a specific chipset, the 965. You should look it up, before you trashtalk Mark. It supports both 36bit addressing and memory remapping.

 

Define what you mean by "address". Because in a 32 bit environment, even if the CPU has the means to detect, or "see" memory outside of the 4GB hard limit, doesn't mean that it can use more than 4GB at any time. It's essentially useless, which is what Pill is trying to point out here.