This is a trusted source it shows the right CPU in the socket That number 8 means 8 cores so is this a mysterious Phenom II 8 core going around highly doubt it All benchmarks of Bulldozer for trusted sources that are using engineer samples are not final performance of what the consumer(us) will get if we buy a Bulldozer Performance from these engineer samples to consumer samples only goes up The Engineer Samples performance is fact not fiction, it that it's not tweaked for consumer or brute force benchmarks Speculation: There will be a performance increase from this B1 Sample to the B2 Sample...where B2 is the sample we the consumers will get if we bought a K15h CPU B1 to B2 will have tweaks, a more higher quality silicon fabrication as they aren't going for high yields anymore(yield quality goes up) Then later this year near November->December we will see C0 stepping Which will have better tweaks, more overclocking headroom, higher stock clocks /facepalm You don't need to say it three times yeesh
seronx and deltatux are my favorite users on this forum. Fire and water. I really love bulldozer performance, thanks for sharing seronx. What I also would love to see, is bulldozer getting higher fps in games. I guess games have to support all 8 cores to make full use of it. However would love to know more about performance per core...
I still say I'll wait until I see them with reviewing sites that can be verifiable before I believe the numbers. deltatux
Games will love that 2 cores are on 1 part of the cpu If you can read this you can see on the silicon that core 0 and core 1 are right smack together So games that are dual-core will absolutely love the Zambezi processor But, if the game is just single-core expect a lower performance but how they explained what a single core would do...It doesn't seem like it would lower performance Performance per Core 0 on each Zambezi Module should be equivalent to i5 2500K(In theory only, Realistically there is going to be variation how much no one knows till Reviewers test Single Core performance or someone leaks single core performance(With a production sample)) But once Core 1 on each Zambezi Module becomes active the performance should be equal to greater than i7 2600K Core 0 only active means that it has ability to use all the resources With Core 1 active the resources get halved but throughput doubles to almost triples
small correction games that are single threaded will benefit even more (this core yea acts as a dual core in single threaded apps). Remember back when i said 2x128bit (SSE) and X3 terran conflict space game?
Ya that is in part with Core 0 being able to use all resources 1 x86-64 execution and 2x128 bit SSE executions + 2MB L2 But how it will play out is totally dependent on what scores it gets in single threaded apps
You can't use software backwards compatibility to justify physical architectural backwards compatibility. If software devs broke compatibility, they'd see the financial effects almost immediately. Breaking compatibility at the hardware level (ie, changing sockets) doesn't result in any financial loss for Intel or AMD. Maintaining a socket for too long will however, result in financial losses. AMD wants/needs to gain market share from Intel. To do so, they have to innovate.
AM3+ -> FMx(Mostly likely FM2) And last time I checked FM is a pin shrink from AM Less Silicon = Cheaper CPUs
Bulldozer based processors are supposedly backwards compatible with the AM3 socket....which means the physical package can't be any smaller. So, exactly what was the point of your post?
I'm saying the architecture designs themselves rely on backwards compatibility lol. The sockets don't really provide that much innovations tbh. There really wasn't much difference between LGA1156 and LGA 1155 to warrant a new socket. They should have gotten people to use the same socket or planned ahead of time tbh. deltatux
Zambezi based processors are built for the AM3+ Socket Valencia based processors are built for the C32 Socket Interlagos based processors are built for the G34 Socket Zambezi/Valencia/Interlagos are all based on the Bulldozer architecture Zambezi is AM3+ Zambezi needs the AM3+ Socket Architecture to function properly Komodo is FMx Zambezi AM3+ (2011) -> Komodo FMx (2012) Valencia C32 (2011) -> Sepang C2012 (2012) Interlagos G34 (2011) -> Terramar G2012 (2012) There is your socket change. You requested one there it is... Because we are so late in this thread: Zambezi is the Gamer-Enthusiast Desktop CPU Line Valencia is the Entry-Level Server CPU Line Interlagos is the High-End Server CPU Line Komodo/Sepang/Terramar are all based on the Enhanced Bulldozer architecture
Fitting AM3+ CPUs to AM3 boards aren't officially supported by AMD, so they're technically weren't design for backwards compatibility to AM3 boards. That "function" is just board manufacturers wanting to do that and have engineered a way to make AM3+ chips work on AM3 motherboards. AMD has said since the beginning of the AM3+ announcement that Bulldozer is not going to be supported on AM3. deltatux
Here is some gas for the fire in here... http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci...-Bulldozer-FX-islemcisi-ve-test-sonuclari.htm
the fact that they still use a single threaded app like superPI just makes me lol. thats stupid. use something multi threaded like wPrime instead.
Determining factor here: Intel i7-990X = $999 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115079 AMD Zambezi(Bulldozer) = $320 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/amd-reveals-pricing-for-eight-core-bulldozer-processor-320/6098 Bulldozer vs 990x = almost the same, but for less than 1/3 the cost! http://www.guru3d.com/news/amd-fx-bulldozer-cpu-against-intel-core-i7990x/ EAT it fan boys. A fool and his money are soon parted.
Intel i5 2500k = $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&cm_re=2500k-_-19-115-072-_-Product This would likely get the same results at 4ghz too, no one buys a $1000 CPU for gaming, especially at 2560x1600. You registered just to post this as well, lol.
No wonder, it was a terrible comparison to make, when everyone knows games are GPU limited at that resolution.