I don't not-buy that a floor falling is going to take out the next, and when they hit the third it will fall quicker and so on. You have more and more mass and inertia adding to it, making each floor easier to take off than the next. The WTC had none of that. From the moment it went, the whole thing was in free fall. Not even a slow top floor hitting the one below it. The entire building went down as if it was dropped.
The point about free-fall will end all conversation on this now. Not a conspiracy thread - please feel free to go start your own conspiracy thread if you are that way inclined. This thread is to discuss the death of Osama and the effects of this (other than conspiracy theories etc). NO conspiracy.
I have a new conspiracy theory. All of these conspiracies are actually fake conspiracies to cover the real conspiracy, which is that there never was a conspiracy. That is, of course, unless me telling you this is actually a counter-conspiracy to cover the fact that the real conspiracy was conspired by people who were tricked into forming a conspiracy by another secret government conspiracy. Wow.. can't believe no one saw this one. You are all sheep. /sarcasm
lamo! Guessing BL is pretty disappointed about now (sorry if this has been aderssed), there's a lot of posts here..... Obama, in his address last night,said he gave the order to kill OBL. Today's news called it a capture or kill operation.I think having him as a prisoner would have been more dangerous than killing him, but I wonder if the government will try to spin it differently, and if so- who are they trying to appease?Radicals, or liberal voters.
When you say liberal voters, what do you mean exactly in this context? Not trolling, just curious. I agree though. Having him as a prisoner would just invite hostage takings around the world. Pretty sure he was going to get killed anyway one way or another.
go tell the victims families that the plane did not hit the pentagon :wanker: http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml dont be a dumbass in the pentagon at the time that died Spec. Craig Amundson, 28, Kan., civilian employee, U.S. Army Melissa Rose Barnes, 27, Redlands, Calif., yeoman second class, U.S. Navy Lt. Col. Canfield D. Boone, 54, Ind., U.S. Army Sharon Carver, 38, Md., civilian employee, U.S. Army Capt. Gerald Francis Deconto, 44, Sandwich, Mass., U.S. Navy Cmdr. Patrick Dunn, 39, Fords, N.J., U.S. Navy Edward Thomas Earhart, 26, Salt Lick, Ky., aerographer's mate first class, U.S. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Robert Randolph Elseth, 37, Vestal, N.Y., U.S. Navy Jamie Lynn Fallon, 23, Woodbridge, Va., storekeeper third class, U.S. Navy Matthew Michael Flocco, 21, Newark, Del., aerographer's mate second class, U.S. Navy Cortz Ghee, 54, Reisterstown, Md., civilian employee, U.S. Army Angela Houtz, 27, La Plata, Md., civilian employee, U.S. Navy Brady Howell, 26, Arlington, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Navy Peggie Hurt, 36, Crewe, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Lt. Col. Stephen Neil Hyland Jr., 45, Calif., U.S. Army Robert J. Hymel, Woodbridge, Va. Lt. Col. Dennis M. Johnson, 48, Wis., U.S. Army Lt. Michael Scott Lamana, 31, Baton Rouge, La., U.S. Navy David W. Laychak, 40, Manassas, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Maj. Steve Long, 39, Ga., U.S. Army Terrance Lynch, Fairfax, Va., consultant, Booz-Allen Teresa M. Martin, 45, Stafford, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Ada L. Mason, 50, Springfield, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Timothy Maude, 53, Fort Myer, Va., deputy chief of staff for personnel, U.S. Army Robert J. Maxwell, 53, Manassas, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Maj. Ronald D. Milam, 33, Md., assistant to the Secretary, U.S. Army Brian Anthony Moss, 34, Sperry, Okla., electronics technician second class, U.S. Navy Ted Moy, 48, Silver Springs, Md., civilian employee, U.S. Army Lt. Cmdr. Patrick Jude Murphy, 38, Flossmoor, Ill., U.S. Navy Michael Allen Noeth, 30, New York, N.Y., illustrator/draftsman second class, U.S. Navy Diana B. Padro, 55, Woodbridge, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Lt. Jonas Martin Panik, 26, Mingoville, Pa., U.S. Navy Lt. J.G. Darin Howard Pontell, 26, Columbia, Md., U.S. Navy Scott Powell, 35, Silver Spring, Md., BTG Inc. Deborah Ramsaur, 45, Annandale, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Edward V. Rowenhorst, 32, Fredricksburg, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Robert Russell, 52, Oxen Hill, Md., civilian employee, U.S. Army William R. Ruth, 57, Md., Chief Warrant Officer 4th Class, U.S. Army Marjorie C. Salamone, 53, Springfield, Va., civilian employee, U.S. Army Michael Selves, 53, Fairfax, Va., information management support center director, U.S. Army Cmdr. Dan Frederic Shanower, 40, Naperville, Ill., U.S. Navy Antoinette Sherman, 35, Forest Heights, Md. Gregg Harold Smallwood, 44, Overland Park, Kan., chief information systems technician, U.S. Navy Edna Stephens, 53, Washington, D.C., civilian employee, U.S. Army Lt. Cmdr. Otis Vincent Tolbert, 38, Lemoore, Calif., U.S. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Ronald James Vauk, 37, Nampa, Idaho, U.S. Navy Lt. Col. Karen Wagner, 40, Texas, U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Maudlyn A. White, 38, St. Croix, Virgin Islands, U.S. Army Ernest Willcher, 62, North Potomac, Md., Booz-Allen Donald McArthur Young, 41, Roanoke, Va., chief information systems technician, U.S. Navy all the tinfiol hat tarts that say it was not planes or the goverment did it. wtf? dumbasses. plane victims American Airlines Flight 77: A Boeing 757 en route from Dulles Airport near Washington to Los Angeles. The plane was carrying 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots. It crashed into the Pentagon about 9:40 a.m. Crew: Charles Burlingame, 51, Va., captain David Charlebois, Washington, D.C., first officer Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant Passengers: Paul Ambrose, 32, physician Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC MJ Booth Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School (Washington) Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc. William E. Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School (Washington) Zandra Cooper, Annandale, Va. Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School (Washington) James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School (Washington) Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School (Washington) Eddie Dillard Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions Inc. Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, Nev., teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., research director, ECOlogic Corp. Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md. Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md. James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, D.C., educational outreach director, National Geographic Society Darlene ''Dee'' Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va. Wilson ''Bud'' Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy Admiral and pilot, American Airlines Richard P. Gabriel Sr., 54, Great Falls, Va., founder, Stratin Consulting Ian Gray, 55, Washington, D.C., healthcare consulting firm president Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif. Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive, Defense Department Steven D. ''Jake'' Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc. Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., travel officer manager, National Geographic Society Chandler Keller, 29, El Segundo, Calif., propulsion engineer, Boeing Co. Yvonne Kennedy Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager, Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer, Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co. Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm Christopher Newton, 38, Ashburn, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Calif., propulsion engineer, Boeing Co. Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer, BAE Systems Robert R. Ploger III, 59, Annandale, Va., software architect, Lockheed Martin Corp. Lisa J. Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp. Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech Inc. Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing, China Diane Simmons George Simmons Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women's gymnastics coach, UC Santa Barbara Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman Norma Lang Steuerle, 54, Alexandria, Va. Hilda Taylor, sixth grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc. Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University Hospital Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., professor, Georgetown University John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md. Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing, China and if you look there is a vid camara from bank across the street servilance vids that show the plane going into the building.at 400mph there not much left just like the shanksville crash.
I love how you think you're an expert on physics of an object going from 600mph to a complete stop in mere seconds. Screw off, god you're retarded. Actually no keep going, it's hilarious.
White House photo of Obama and his national security team following events in the Bin Laden operation
Great picture. By the look on their faces the picture was taken shortly after the helicopter crashed. This is the type of operation that can make or break an administration.
LOl They put Oboma in the corner , I can just hear it now , Get in the d*mn corner and shut the h*ll up and let the real men handle this lol
I have a hard time believing this story, hasn't several sources confirm that he died in 2001 and again in 2008? What's next? 4 years from now they say he's alive and living in New York and last seen sipping a mocha latte at Starbucks reading one of his poems from a Macbook? Eh, I'm passed the point of caring if he is really dead. To be honest I'd more interested in a Angelina Jolie's crotch-shot.
There is a school of thought here in the US that the military maybe,is a necessary evil.Peace first, and life above death....... to say it this way seems pretty reasonable, but the extreme liberal minded (who historically supports Obamas party) would more than likely want OBL's life preserved because it's morally just- regardless of the risks it posed to Americans, and our "targets of interest" I'm more conservative, and even writing this, I understand how bad I must sound.There are however, hard truths we must face.Sometimes it's better to kill, and make hard choices like killing, because of the big picture. Just an aside: most of what I define as "Liberal" comes from the late 60's and the peace movement that defined the summer of love culture.When the Military was considered bad, and everything could be solved with a hug.No, not everything can, and not everyone is our misunderstood friend. I'm simply trying to answer your question, and I'm sorry to take this into a place that may be controversial. This is a happy victorious day.not a day for division.
I'm sorry, but it looks like everybody's is watching the screen, but that one guy on the laptop is saying "Almost made it to level 85..." It had me laughing
*Osama* declared war on the U.S. so at the end of the day they got there own back for all the people killed in 9/11 simple as that,Osama is nothing but a **** who deserved to die,even the Pakistanis know this deep down in themselves.
oh yeah bill clinton???? he is the one who got auggie bin doggy on our cases in the first place by cutting the aid and food(reagan + bush gave to his people) to afganstan after he was elected.during his pre-election smoozing overseas with foriegn heads he said he would not cut the aid. what he do after the first attack on the trade center anyway? he is also the one who got our troops killed in africa with his half assedness, blackhawk down ring a bell?
