AMD Catalyst 10.10d Hotfix Win7 Von modded

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by Von Dach, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. CoMa666

    CoMa666 Master Guru

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    Hey Von can you pls resolve my issue? i have crash to desktop with all drivers later 10.5 with bad company 2 game, i tried all things my overclock it's stable, the problem is dx11+crossfire, i need to choose one and i not take Crash to desktop, i'm a little disperate i'm thinking on selling my 2 cards like in some posts i write, just you can understand why this happen? and i see i have very poor gpu usage in my game(vsync?) like 40%-50%, any help will be appreciated.
     
  2. Von Dach

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    Read my general tweaks, update PunkBuster as tell: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=327922

    Still crashing? it's not your GPUs, your CPU is wrongly overclocked, bad BIOS settings probably the culprit.

    I'm a BC2 player myself, PunkBuster clean updates + a more moderate overclocking fixed my CTDs.
     
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  3. signex

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    Got some weird graphic bug in Black Ops the tree's have black lines leafs it's very annoying..
     
  4. Von Dach

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    With the modded driver? Try a CAP switch. I don't have that game myself.
     

  5. rippedx

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    Von, I am having almost this exact problem. I just got my Sapphire 6870, loaded it up with the cd drivers and it was perfectly fine. Then I installed 10.10 on top of the existing, then 10.10d.

    After reading this thread I was optimistic and ready to do everything right. I followed the install readme completely and your advice to ducksauce:

    -Uninstall and delete driver software in Device Manager
    -Uninstall all ATI components using Catalyst Install Manager
    -Reboot
    -Run ati_****_cleaner.cmd
    -Reboot
    -Run driver sweeper
    -Reboot
    -Run ati_****_cleaner.cmd and install modded inf

    After restarting when the install was complete, my screen was black for a good 15 minutes (before Welcome screen) before manually powered down. Don't know why this happened? Each successive reboot comes up to Welcome immediately.

    Now, I can't play any games. For example I load Call of Duty MW or WaW and can join a server but after the progress bar gets to 100% the screen goes black then a random color. It even crashed on me in iTunes as I was browsing cover art!

    The driver tries to recover but usually doesn't, and the screen keeps turning black then a different color (pink, tan, green, or blue).

    I made sure there were no traces of ATI left. Don't know what's going wrong but I want to scream it's so frustrating.

    After the driver crashes, I go in the Event Logs and the Event Id is 1001. Source is "Windows Error Reporting". "Fault bucket , type 0" and Event Name: "LiveKernelEvent". Occasionally accompanying this error is another error from source "Desktop Window Manager" and says "The Desktop Window Manager has exited with code (0xc00002fe)."

    I tried disabling dwm.exe in Services but that didn't help. Seems this is involved in every instance of the crashing.

    I am running Win 7 x64 on a C2Q Q6600 (2.4GHz), 6GB DDR2 800, 800W PSU, 60GB SSD.

    I'd love if you or someone had suggestions for me! Thanks a lot and if you need more info let me know!
     
  6. rippedx

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    I just read the .dmp file and here is the output:


    Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 AMD64
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


    Loading Dump File [C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\Kernel_0_0_cab_0f425ea3\WD-20101109-2104.dmp]
    Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

    Symbol search path is: SRV*C:\Symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
    Executable search path is:
    Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
    Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
    Built by: 7600.16617.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100618-1621
    Machine Name:
    Kernel base = 0xfffff800`0300e000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`0324be50
    Debug session time: Tue Nov 9 21:04:20.849 2010 (UTC - 7:00)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:06:56.987
    Loading Kernel Symbols
    ...............................................................
    ................................................................
    ....................................
    Loading User Symbols
    Mini Kernel Dump does not contain unloaded driver list
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

    BugCheck 117, {fffffa80056714e0, fffff88004242f94, 0, 0}

    Unable to load image atikmpag.sys, Win32 error 0n2
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atikmpag.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atikmpag.sys
    Probably caused by : atikmpag.sys ( atikmpag+6f94 )

    Followup: MachineOwner
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    1: kd> !analyze -v
    *******************************************************************************
    * *
    * Bugcheck Analysis *
    * *
    *******************************************************************************

    VIDEO_TDR_TIMEOUT_DETECTED (117)
    The display driver failed to respond in timely fashion.
    (This code can never be used for real bugcheck).
    Arguments:
    Arg1: fffffa80056714e0, Optional pointer to internal TDR recovery context (TDR_RECOVERY_CONTEXT).
    Arg2: fffff88004242f94, The pointer into responsible device driver module (e.g owner tag).
    Arg3: 0000000000000000, The secondary driver specific bucketing key.
    Arg4: 0000000000000000, Optional internal context dependent data.

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------


    FAULTING_IP:
    atikmpag+6f94
    fffff880`04242f94 ?? ???

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: GRAPHICS_DRIVER_TDR_TIMEOUT

    TAG_NOT_DEFINED_202b: *** Unknown TAG in analysis list 202b


    BUGCHECK_STR: 0x117

    PROCESS_NAME: System

    CURRENT_IRQL: 0

    STACK_TEXT:
    fffff880`021cf630 fffff880`0447a4ef : fffffa80`056714e0 fffff880`044c6c80 fffffa80`056714e0 fffff880`04448843 : watchdog!WdDbgReportRecreate+0xa3
    fffff880`021cfb50 fffff880`0447b1b4 : fffff8a0`0640fb50 fffff8a0`0640fb50 00000000`00000080 fffffa80`056714e0 : dxgkrnl!TdrUpdateDbgReport+0xcb
    fffff880`021cfba0 fffff880`0444f6b3 : 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`06b5e000 00000000`00000000 fffff880`00000068 : dxgkrnl!TdrCollectDbgInfoStage2+0x220
    fffff880`021cfbd0 fffff880`0447bd07 : fffffa80`056b7470 ffffffff`fffe7960 fffffa80`056714e0 00000000`0000000f : dxgkrnl!DXGADAPTER::Reset+0xef
    fffff880`021cfc80 fffff880`0454aec1 : fffffa80`079056b0 00000000`00000080 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`05bc2010 : dxgkrnl!TdrResetFromTimeout+0x23
    fffff880`021cfd00 fffff800`03322c06 : 00000000`fffffc32 fffffa80`067caa10 fffffa80`05206040 fffffa80`067caa10 : dxgmms1!VidSchiWorkerThread+0x101
    fffff880`021cfd40 fffff800`0305cc26 : fffff800`031f8e80 fffffa80`067caa10 fffff800`03206c40 fffff880`0120f534 : nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x5a
    fffff880`021cfd80 00000000`00000000 : fffff880`021d0000 fffff880`021ca000 fffff880`0b509b60 00000000`00000000 : nt!KxStartSystemThread+0x16


    STACK_COMMAND: .bugcheck ; kb

    FOLLOWUP_IP:
    atikmpag+6f94
    fffff880`04242f94 ?? ???

    SYMBOL_NAME: atikmpag+6f94

    FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

    MODULE_NAME: atikmpag

    IMAGE_NAME: atikmpag.sys

    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4ccb82bf

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x117_IMAGE_atikmpag.sys

    BUCKET_ID: X64_0x117_IMAGE_atikmpag.sys

    Followup: MachineOwner
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    1: kd> lmvm atikmpag
    start end module name
    fffff880`0423c000 fffff880`04287000 atikmpag T (no symbols)
    Loaded symbol image file: atikmpag.sys
    Image path: atikmpag.sys
    Image name: atikmpag.sys
    Timestamp: Fri Oct 29 20:28:15 2010 (4CCB82BF)
    CheckSum: 0004C2D7
    ImageSize: 0004B000
    Translations: 0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    Mini Kernel Dump does not contain unloaded driver list
     
  7. Von Dach

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    Well you thrashed the registry hard with that sequence!

    The mod only change some shown and hidden CCC settings in the inf file + atiapfxx.blb (CAP) is 0KB. AMD setup routine, Install Manager is all intact. I can only recommend you this:

    Uninstall everything ATI/AMD related from Control Panel. Reboot.

    Reread included install.txt carefully and execute like tells.

    Uninstall and delete driver software in Device Manager. Reboot

    Run "ati_****-cleaner and installation v3.6.5.cmd". Close it when asked for modded inf (use only the cleaner part).

    Run some more of the best registry cleaners:

    Driver Sweeper
    CCleaner Slim
    CCleaner Enhancer
    Auslogics Registry Cleaner
    Wise Registry Cleaner
    Wise Disk Cleaner
    TweakNow PowerPack 2010

    Reboot.

    Run again ati_****-cleaner and installation v3.6.5.cmd to install modded driver.
     
  8. Stormie74

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    i only uninstall drivers and install newones nowdays because it works
    but this time i test this procedure

    i do this

    Uninstall everything ATI/AMD related from Control Panel. Reboot.
    Uninstall and delete driver software in Device Manager. Reboot
    Run "ati_****-cleaner and installation v3.6.5.cmd". Close it when asked for modded inf (use only the cleaner part).

    i run
    Driver Sweeper
    CCleaner
    Auslogics Registry Cleaner
    Wise Registry Cleaner
    Eusing Free Registry Cleaner

    ...and guess what. Next hour i spend trying to get ccc work (and i get it work).
    that install procedure is bullsXXt ,just uninstal drivers and install new ones. that is how i use to do it without any problems.
     
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  9. aminfri

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    ok, time for my report:
    fallout NW: image quality is certainly better but the game is as jerky as before.
    GTA IV Episodes: image quality is way better and everything is more detailed and sharper, it however makes the game to stutter a bit but i tried increasing the surface quality and disable surface optimizations in original 10.10d drivers and it made the game stutter a lot more, so with no doubts this modded driver is superior
    Darksiders: for some odd reason the game was kinda jerky when using 4xAA , it seem to be smooth now :)
    UT3: looks better than ever

    so yes, its no magic silver bullet but probably the next best thing.
     
  10. Von Dach

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    Lol, this one may be a silver bullet, specially for dual core. I did a lot of tests before reporting this:

    Disable High Precision Event Timer (HPET) in BIOS.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Precision_Event_Timer
    http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=183329
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4592036
    My own result with DPC Latency Checker (http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml):

    HPET 64-Bit ON: between 100-150us
    HPET OFF: between 5-15us

    I loss 3-4 frames per second, single card and CFX with HPET OFF, but I know responsiveness improved and chance of stuttering decreased accordingly.
     
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  11. signex

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    Tried it with original 10.10d drivers still same so i don't think you're driver is causing the problem.
     
  12. Von Dach

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    Reduce CCC.exe priority below normal to gain additional responsiveness and jerkiness reduction.

    CCC.exe is a DPC hanger cause of stuttering, you can check that with Sysinternals Process Monitor & DPC Latency Checker.

    To reduce process priority: right-click taskbar> Start Task Manager> Processes> right-click CCC.exe> Set Priority> Below Normal.

    The slower your computer the bigger the increase in responsiveness and stuttering reduction.

    Install Prio to save the applied changes and each time you start this process from now on, it will set the saved priority for it. You will not have to change the priority manually any more. http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html

    CrossFireX notes

    If you are in a fullscreen game and switch (Alt-Tab) to an other process or minimize to Desktop/Start Menu, CFX will be disabled (single card mode).

    If you activate Steam interface in a game (Shift-Tab), CFX will be affected, not disabled but reduced cards usage.

    You have to quit game process and restart it to reinitialize full CFX usage in fullscreen.

    Windowed 3D = single card mode (CFX inactive).
     
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  13. Von Dach

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    ^ dude you are a god among men.. that HPET function in bios was the root of most of my jitterness in FalloutNV.. changing that indeed took my latency way down and now the game is smoother. I am going to try using your driver as well as turning down the CCC priority..

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!
     
  15. Bhairava

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    Ehi Von thank you for your great driver.
    I'm having a problem with Lp2: only 1 gpu works. The second one sleeps. I've tried everything: 10.10, hotfixes and caps. No way.
    Crossfire is running very well in Lp2 Dx9, and other games (Bfbc2, Black Ops, Fallout New Vegas. Mafia II etc etc..). To exclude any problem connected with general dx11 Crossfire performance on my system i tried Unigine, and it runs well. Both gpu are working fine.
    I just tried your drivers, with dummy cap and official cap. Same problem.

    So the issue is present only in Lp2 Dx11. I really don't understand what's wrong.
     

  16. Von Dach

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    First what is Lp2?? but anyway if it doesn't work on official driver release too, it's really only AMD who can correct that. Maybe you can try RadeonPro with alternative rendering modes (low probability of success through).
     
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    lost planet 2
     
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    Ive disable HPET to give it a try, just wondering as im not a techie, what will this affet besided possibly reducing stutter. Does it disable anything?
     
  19. Von Dach

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    Not to my knowledge.
     
  20. sprower

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    Well yeah.. it disables the High Precision Event Timer. :)

    In a nutshell (from my understanding :nerd:) it forces your system to use a less accurate timer through the cpu instead of the chipset effectively reducing microstutter because lets face it.. forcing precision through Catalyst drivers... is like giving a sniper a flamethrower.

    And yeap... disabling HPET is like I just traded in my stack-o-cards for a single gpu. :banana:
     

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