GTX 290 info

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by MAD-OGRE, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. LedHed

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    You trust that over a direct quote from Microsoft? You know, the people who make DirectX.


    Few posts up:

    Even your articles source says the same thing:

    http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2008/09/17/directx-11-a-look-at-what-s-coming/2

     
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  2. Ieldra

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    I agree with LedHed there... I've seen the MS statement and I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about. Anyway, we still need to see the full potential of DX10 fulfilled...
     
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    But I notice the difference between DX9 and DX10, shaders in DX9 looks kind of "washed out" there are much more shading capabilities in DX10.
    But back on topic, according to this source there will be no rebrand for the 55 nm GT200 :/
    It will still be GTX260 and GTX280, if that's the case they will hopefully brand it something like GTX260+ and GTX280+ so you can easily see it's the 55 nm version.
    Source: http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=4463
     
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    I think the last thing people are worried about at this point is the naming scheme, just be bring on the hardware.
     

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    Needs an unique naming scheme or printed specifications so you know it's the GTX280 55 nm version if nVidia decides to keep the same naming scheme according to the source http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=4463
    If you are buying a brand new card you rather have the 55 nm version rather than the 65 nm version right? So you need the information so you know what you are buying :)
     
  6. LedHed

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    I guess you slept through the whole dilemma between 8 Series G92 cards and 9 Series G92 cards, aka. solely naming scheming generation. It wasn't that hard to tell us about the 55nm G92 with a + , so I doubt it would be very hard with the GT206 either.
     
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    Screw the naming scheme, I'm more concerned with release dates >.<
     
  8. jthoov

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    How much will these be when they come out?

    I'm guessing $500US and higher? =(



    I'll wait for another 2 generations then but this upcoming generation lol. I already broke the bank buying my build on the left.
     
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    NO WAY.
    o_O Maybe the GX2 will be 500$. GTX290 or whatever they call it should be cheaper than current gen 280.
     
  10. jthoov

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    Did I read the article wrong?

    I thought the 270 and 290 were faster, less power consumption, quieter and produce less heat.

    Sounds damn good lol.
     

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    I'll be keeping an eye on the 270 model. Hopefull it'll be around $200 dollars which is what I'm willing to spend on my next card.
     
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    Hey, so I just searched around google reading up on GTX270 and 290 and GX2 and stuff.

    But I'm really new at this.. so can anyone explain to me?

    Like talking about 55 and 65 die and stuff or w/e, What does it matter?
    Are these new cards going to be faster or something? Will it be cheaper/more expensive?

    So confusing lol
     
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    @jthoov ask ledhed!

    ledhed...take it away....
     
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    Of cource I wasn't sleeping, 90 nm G80 640 MB -> 65 nm G92 512 MB but you can tell the difference on the name 8800 GTS 640 and 8800 GTS 512.
    8800 GT -> 9800 GT is the exact same thing except Hybrid power.
    8800 GTS -> 9800 GTX slightly higher clocks, Hybrid power Tri-SLI and 2 connectors. 9800 GTX is 65 nm 9800 GTX+ is 55 nm. But you would prefer identical names to confuse the customers I guess, I want unique names so I can identify them. Something like GTX 280+ or whatever, just so we CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE SO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE BUYING.
     
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    yes ask ledhead or read my post.
     

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    There are many benefits to running a 55nm manufacturing process over 65nm. Mainly the chips are cooler running, cheaper to produce, clock higher, and use less energy than it's 65nm brother.

    The main benefit seen from the new 55nm 9800TX+ (just a 55nm 8800 GTS 512) is the extreme overclockability straight out of the box. Many 55nm G92 based cards have reached 830/2106/2200 straight out of the packaging, while the 65nm G92 needs volt modding and elaborate air cooling to reach those speeds.

    We hope to see this same type of increase in overclocking with the new 55nm GT206-202 and GT206-302

    Edit: Also a smaller manufacturing process means less cost to the consumer through cheaper manufacturing (smaller = cheaper). I would guess the 270 would be around $200 and the 290 around $350 and the GX2 $450-$500. NVIDIA has to lower the price to compete and this is how ATI is keeping their cost down also (55nm manufacturing).
     
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    Better than a name change for no improvement in performance or architecture (8800GT-> 9800GT / 8800 GTS 512 -> 9800GTX)

    Most NVIDIA consumers are happy with better performance, we don't really care about the names.
     
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    Yeah but I wouldn't wanna have to count on luck when it comes to the 55nm or 65nm version. GTX280+ would be fine with me
     
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    don't forget the (g80) 8800gts also had the 640mb and the 320mb plus in the 640 the ssc version had 112sp opposed to 96.
     

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